Requesting Recommendations for Setting up a Seller Finance Deal

Requesting Recommendations for Setting up a Seller Finance Deal

Rental Property Investor · Romeoville, IL · Member since 2014 · 8 posts · 3 votes

I am working with on a lead to purchase a for a 950 sq. ft - 2/1 Condo with seller financing. The current Owner, is a friend, who holds the property free and clear. They no longer live in the property and does not want the "inconvenience" of being a landlord. The property is currently costing the Owner $142/mo in property taxes and $350/mo on HOA fees. Total monthly outgoing costs is $492/mo.

The property has not been upgraded since 1980. It is livable however; needs a kitchen, bath and interior finish upgrades. The Owner is not motivated to perform the upgrades.

The Owner has a relative in long-term nursing care which is very expensive.  I have recommended selling the property to me would solve quite a few issues for them including: eliminating the cost and labor to upgrade the property, reduce the stress of selling the property, and turn outgoing payments of approximately $492/mo into income of approximately $575/mo.

I would like to structure the deal that is fair my friend while still meeting my goal of owning the property with cashflow. I have ran the buy and hold analysis with the following information.

Other properties are currently selling for $120K.  Fully upgrades units are listing for $135K .

I would like to offer 85K with 5%  ($5000) down with a 3.5% interest rate for 15 years. 

The following are my calculations from the Bigger Pockets Buy and Hold Calculator:

Monthly Income: $1,400.00 

Monthly Expenses: $1,204.93

Monthly Cash Flow: $195.07 

Pro Forma Cap Rate:  7.72% 

NOI $9,268.00

Total Cash Needed $26,750.00

Cash on Cash ROI 8.75%

Purchase Cap Rate 10.90% 

Purchase Price: $85,000.00

Purchase Closing Costs: $2,500.00 

Estimated Repair Costs: $20,000.00 

Total Cost of Project: $107,500.00 

After Repair Value $120,000.00 (conservative)

Down Payment: $4,250.00 

Loan Amount: $80,750.00 

Loan Points: $0.00 

Loan Fees: $0,00

Amortized Over: 15 years 

Loan Interest Rate: 3.500% 

Monthly P&I: $577.27

Do you think this is a good enough deal to purchase?

Do you think this is a fair deal for the Seller with Seller Financing?

Do you have any recommendations of formulating the deal?

I would greatly appreciate your insights and recommendations.

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  • Nathan GesnerBusiness Member
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    Real Estate Broker · Cody, WY · Member since 2010 · 28k+ posts · 41k+ votes
    7y

    It looks pretty good to me based on the numbers. I'm not sure I'd get excited about it but your knowledge of the market and the situation may provide more insight.

    If you are not experienced in renovating homes, I would probably pad your numbers a little, especially on a home that's sitting vacant. You can expect to run into some surprises and additional expenses.

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  • Lender · Playa del Carmen, México · Member since 2014 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    Hi @Cheryl Craigo. Three concerns immediately jump out at me:

    1. It's a Condo - Please make absolutely certain the condo assoc has an open policy regarding rentals. Even with that, a lot can change over 15 years. Also, watch for special assessments and deferred maintenance. Better yet, just avoid condos.
    2. It's a 2/1 - In my market, anything smaller than a 3/2 carries a much greater vacancy risk. You should ask the experienced investors in your area whether that's true there as well.
    3. You're Giving Away an Awful Lot - Helping the seller eliminate a $492/mo negative is a huge win for them. But you're investing $20K in repairs and paying them $5K up front? Why? And, $195/mo net gives you hardly any little wiggle room when your rental market flattens out. Also, why offer any interest at all? Why not $500/mo until paid in full?

    As an investor, you either need to approach this deal as if they weren't your friend (hard, I know!), or, even better, find them a 3rd-party investor and then help your friend get the best terms they can.

    If you can't treat them like any other seller now, the next 15 years are going to be rough indeed!

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