Resources for mortgages - cash out investments properties

Resources for mortgages - cash out investments properties

Pasadena, CA · Member since 2017 · 16 posts · 1 vote

HI all. I have a 2 main questions. 

1) I really need to get more information on mortgages. The different kinds of them available as an investor, who to speak to that can help me with this information? or any online resources you suggest that I can read more about these. Using entities V personal for investment mortgages etc

2) I currently have 2 properties in VA ( I am based in CA) I have a rental that has basically seasoned (6 months of a hard money loan) and I want to refinance to a better rate. The first offer I got though was for 9%, and the repayments of the loan were more than the hard money loan I have. So are there any Mortgage brokers licensed in all 50 states or in VA that I can speak with that can help with a refinance? this is a little time sensitive so would to chat as soon as possible.

regards

Bret

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Stephanie P.Pro Member
Washington, DC Mortgage Lender/Broker · Member since 2016 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
7y

@Bret Kennedy

You got some great responses from @Harjeet Bhatti, @Jerry Padilla 

@Albert Bui and @Shaun Weekes.  Take the ball and run with it.  

Conventional financing does not allow for LLC's (although they do allow for the time a property was in the LLC to count toward off setting the seasoning requirement). If you have two hard money loans on two properties and they're in an LLC, you would have to put them into your name to qualify for conventional financing. Otherwise, use a portfolio lender. It will be a more expensive option so be prepared. Another option would be put them in your personal name and get an umbrella liability policy. Lots of threads on BP about one versus the other.

Best of luck

Stephanie

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  • Lender · Rochester, NY · Member since 2014 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    @Bret Kennedy

    Conventional rates are much lower than 9%. You can cash out refinance on appraised value at 6 months and there is no seasoning requirements for a refinance without cashout.

    A SFR is 75% LTV and a MFR is 70% LTV.

  • Lender · Bellevue WA & Orange County, CA · Member since 2013 · 2k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Bret Kennedy:

    HI all. I have a 2 main questions. 

    1) I really need to get more information on mortgages. The different kinds of them available as an investor, who to speak to that can help me with this information? or any online resources you suggest that I can read more about these. Using entities V personal for investment mortgages etc

    2) I currently have 2 properties in VA ( I am based in CA) I have a rental that has basically seasoned (6 months of a hard money loan) and I want to refinance to a better rate. The first offer I got though was for 9%, and the repayments of the loan were more than the hard money loan I have. So are there any Mortgage brokers licensed in all 50 states or in VA that I can speak with that can help with a refinance? this is a little time sensitive so would to chat as soon as possible.

    regards

    Bret

     Hey Bret,

    It sounds like you're looking to find out more about portfolio financing vs conventional agency (fannie/freddie) options with respect to an investors point of view.

    I discuss a bit of this with respect to your scenario however I am not licensed in VA. Once you determine your product pros and cons with regards to your strategy you may want to find a VA licensed lender to deploy that strategy.

    9% these days is like hard money so you shouldnt be paying that much if you've been offered that. 

    Best of luck,

  • Pasadena, CA · Member since 2017 · 16 posts · 1 vote
    7y

    If the house is purchased under an entity, doest that affect the percentage rate V's refinancing under your personal name? I know that we use entities for protection, but just wondering if there is a difference in the % as well

    Bret

  • Harjeet BhattiPro Member
    Lender · Glenview IL- CDLP NMLS#230554 · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 747 votes
    7y

    @Bret Kennedy You can't refinance under LLC but can refinance on your name under conventional loan. Its same guidelines when you refinance under your name.

  • Loan Officer / Processor / Life & Health Agent · Rancho Cucamonga, CA · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 757 votes
    7y
    Originally posted by @Bret Kennedy:

    If the house is purchased under an entity, doest that affect the percentage rate V's refinancing under your personal name? I know that we use entities for protection, but just wondering if there is a difference in the % as well

    Bret

    If your home is under an LLC the rates will be higher than regular conventional loans. Depending on the loan amount, fico score and reserves you're looking at 5% to 7% in most cases.

  • Pasadena, CA · Member since 2017 · 16 posts · 1 vote
    7y

    @Harjeet Bhatti I don't think that is accurate. The whole reason for purchasing through an LLC is to protect yourself. I already have 2 hard money loans through my LLC and I am sure that you can refinance (cash out for conventional loans) in your LLC's name.

    My main dilemena is sifting through the different types available to me . 

    Bret

  • Harjeet BhattiPro Member
    Lender · Glenview IL- CDLP NMLS#230554 · Member since 2015 · 2k+ posts · 747 votes
    7y

    @Bret Kennedy Fannie Mae guidelines :-

  • Stephanie P.Pro Member
    Washington, DC Mortgage Lender/Broker · Member since 2016 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    7y

    @Bret Kennedy

    You got some great responses from @Harjeet Bhatti, @Jerry Padilla 

    @Albert Bui and @Shaun Weekes.  Take the ball and run with it.  

    Conventional financing does not allow for LLC's (although they do allow for the time a property was in the LLC to count toward off setting the seasoning requirement). If you have two hard money loans on two properties and they're in an LLC, you would have to put them into your name to qualify for conventional financing. Otherwise, use a portfolio lender. It will be a more expensive option so be prepared. Another option would be put them in your personal name and get an umbrella liability policy. Lots of threads on BP about one versus the other.

    Best of luck

    Stephanie

  • Lender · Rochester, NY · Member since 2014 · 3k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    7y

    @Stephanie P.

    I completely agree! We have an umbrella policy on our rental properties as well! It is a few hundred a year and we went the route of conventional and saved a lot more than paying the higher rates with LLC financing and portfolio lending.

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