Governor Dingus Inslee should be sued, extended ban and more

Governor Dingus Inslee should be sued, extended ban and more

Rental Property Investor · Seattle, WA · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes

You still have to pay for groceries, you still have to pay for gas, but you can live rent free forever apparently under Governor Dingus Inslee. Landlords are not even allowed to enforce the back rent owed in many cases now....I own multiple rental houses throughout King County, bought 1 more earlier this year and was buying 4 more this year but I will absolutely NOT buy more rentals in WA. My plan to accelerate the liquidation of my assets here and relocate out of state is accelerating.

[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.governor.wa.gov/ne... as provided in this paragraph, landlords, property owners, and property managers are prohibited from treating any unpaid rent or other charges related to a dwelling or parcel of land occupied as a dwelling as an enforceable debt or obligation that is owing or collectable, where such non-payment was as a result of the COVID-19 outbreak and occurred on or after February 29, 2020, and during the State of Emergency proclaimed in all counties in Washington State. This includes attempts to collect, or threats to collect, through a collection agency, by filing an unlawful detainer or other judicial action, withholding any portion of a security deposit, billing or invoicing, reporting to credit bureaus, or by any other means. This prohibition does not apply to a landlord, property owner, or property manager who demonstrates by a preponderance of the evidence to a court that the resident was offered, and refused or failed to comply with, a re-payment plan that was reasonable based on the individual financial, health, and other circumstances of that resident; failure to provide a reasonable repayment plan shall be a defense to any lawsuit or other attempts to collect.

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Real Estate Agent · Bellingham, WA · Member since 2017 · 427 posts · 182 votes
6y

@Jack B. Good for you. Why don’t you use that education and find a state you’d rather be in then? It’s apparent that the governance of this state is no longer to your liking. A person with your education, certificates and experience could probably quickly analyze and chose the top 5 areas to invest in and make a killing. Maybe we’ll hear about your success story on the podcasts soon. That’s be pretty cool. Anyway, good luck out there.

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  • Naomi PingerPro Member
    Realtor · 98830 · Member since 2016 · 250 posts · 65 votes
    6y
    @Jack B.  Go to the facebook page of Restore Washington scroll down or click on this link
    https://thewashingtonstandard.com/huge-victory-in.../...
    Everyone need to read this article.  Inslee cannot enforce the mandates because as he admitted in court they are only suggestions.  He is suppose to make a public announcement as to this however it has not been done.
    EVERYONE PLEASE READ THE ARTICLE. QUIT BEING SHEEP LEAD TO THE SLAUGHTER. USE THE MASK IF YOU WANT IT IS YOUR CHOICE.  READ THE ARTICLE.

  • Real Estate Agent · Bellingham, WA · Member since 2017 · 427 posts · 182 votes
    6y

    @Jack B. We are living in crazy times. If you need help liquidating, I’d be happy to help. You could probably triple the amount of units you have by going out of state to a more landlord friendly area.

  • Rental Property Investor · Seattle, WA · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Robert Freeborn:

    @Jack B. We are living in crazy times. If you need help liquidating, I’d be happy to help. You could probably triple the amount of units you have by going out of state to a more landlord friendly area.

     I'm a realtor, thanks.

  • Rental Property Investor · Seattle, WA · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    6y
    Originally posted by @Naomi Pinger:
    @Jack B.  Go to the facebook page of Restore Washington scroll down or click on this link
    https://thewashingtonstandard.com/huge-victory-in.../...
    Everyone need to read this article.  Inslee cannot enforce the mandates because as he admitted in court they are only suggestions.  He is suppose to make a public announcement as to this however it has not been done.
    EVERYONE PLEASE READ THE ARTICLE. QUIT BEING SHEEP LEAD TO THE SLAUGHTER. USE THE MASK IF YOU WANT IT IS YOUR CHOICE.  READ THE ARTICLE.

    Ummmmmm...that article is short on facts, the legal challenge against Inslee was dismissed in District court...in fact all three challenges have been dismissed. Educate yourself before YOU are led to believe nonsense that you read online...

    https://www.thenewstribune.com/news/state/article244485917.html

    You're telling people to please read and stop being sheep, blindly believing a random article with no facts or evidence that turns out to not be true. Hillarious.... How did he not enforce the proclamations when his goon, the AG, sued a property manager for 350K and won due to eviction notices? https://www.usnews.com/news/be...

    Had you bothered to do a quick google search of 10 seconds you would have heard there was no such victory against Inslee. Shake my head...

     So far BP has responded with two people, one who posts misinformation the average 7th grader could see through, and another who immediately jumps on the "I'm a realtor I'll help you liquidate your listings and get a fat check for no real effort with my 90 hours of training". Thanks bruh, I sold two of my houses myself and saved the 60+K in commissions. Ironically both are realtors. What a joke. Low barrier to entry profession. I got my real estate license after my MBA and 16 technical certifications to cut out the overpaid middle man who apparently can't tell fact from fiction, lol. What a joke.

  • Real Estate Agent · Bellingham, WA · Member since 2017 · 427 posts · 182 votes
    6y

    @Jack B. Good for you. Why don’t you use that education and find a state you’d rather be in then? It’s apparent that the governance of this state is no longer to your liking. A person with your education, certificates and experience could probably quickly analyze and chose the top 5 areas to invest in and make a killing. Maybe we’ll hear about your success story on the podcasts soon. That’s be pretty cool. Anyway, good luck out there.

  • Investor · Kingston, WA · Member since 2008 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
    6y

    I agree with Robert Freeborn, if you can't stand the heat then just get out of the kitchen. 

  • Architect · Wenatchee, WA · Member since 2018 · 843 posts · 907 votes
    6y

    @Jack B.

    You must of read over the last sentence in your first post....

    "This prohibition does not apply to a landlord, property owner, or property manager who demonstrates by a preponderance of the evidence to a court that the resident was offered, and refused or failed to comply with, a re-payment plan that was reasonable based on the individual financial, health, and other circumstances of that resident; failure to provide a reasonable repayment plan shall be a defense to any lawsuit or other attempts to collect."

    Right here is how you know you are over reacting a bit. If you understood law and the language you would understand that this sentence lets you void everything that came before it. As long as you provide a "reasonable repayment plan" you can sue the tenant and go after lost earnings. No state has the right to wave rent and make it just disappear. They, the state, would have to pay the rent. Basically turning everyone into a Section 8 rental. Ya, him extending the restriction on evictions is nuts. I dont see how it is sustainable and I dont see how he thinks this will help anyone in the long term. There are already a bunch of law suites against this guy. It will be hard with all the judges that are in his pocket. 

    If you are going to freak out and run away every time a politician (or other hardship) makes running your business harder I suggest just getting out of any business. Go liquidate and live on a boat in the ocean. I'm joking of course....but government, no matter what side, will always be making laws that make business harder to run or take more in taxes. Always has been and always will be. Do you think the population and the need for housing is just going to evaporate when you leave for a better state? Of course not. No matter what laws get put in place there will always be a need for housing in Seattle. You need to adapt and change tactics to survive for sure but there will always be a REI market in Seattle until the USA no longer exists and the world is plunged into chaos.

    Now I dont blame you for wanting to find an easier state to work/invest in. Less resistance is always better. But dont bow out just because times are difficult. This whole covid crap is going to pass and things are going to change. Businesses everywhere are going to forever be changed because of this virus. The way business is going to be done is changing (has changed) across the entire spectrum and its not going back to the way it was. ever. If you make an emotional gut reaction move now, which is based on that you want your business to run the way it use to, you wont be able to properly react to how this country unfolds and changes once we get back to a new normal. Everything has changed in the wake of covid, including REI. 

  • Investor · Marin County California · Member since 2018 · 1k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    6y

    Beneath all the rhetoric, this proclamation actually presents an interesting issue as to whether it can be squared with the U.S. Constitution's contracts clause.  The re-payment "defense" may not survive a due process challenge, honestly, on vagueness grounds.  It will be interesting to see how it plays out.    

  • Real Estate Broker · Portland, OR · Member since 2019 · 4k+ posts · 2k+ votes
    6y

    Hey, could be worse, you could have Kate "I don't answer questions" Brown.

    What can you say?  These guys will keep getting elected until we hit a wall.

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