BLUF: I would exercise the "30 day money back no questions asked guarantee" if my good conscience would allow it. My new goal is to exercise the 180-day buy/sell and post a video option to recoup my money. I bought this program about 20 days ago. I did some self study on land flipping through REtipster.com and Google but felt like I was still missing something. I watched some of the videos saying how great the program is, so I paid into it. The reason I'm not asking for the money back for the program is I know I learned from the program. With that the idea I had of the land geek and their "systematized systems" and use of geeky technology the toolkit left me wanting. The website is very slow, the videos are dated. Some of the material is not rehearsed and seems like an after thought to just add in to the program. The free trial of the Facebook group is sub-par. The mastermind calls are good but not worth the money. The page is not super active other than by all the newcomers. I will not be paying for that service. I wrote an email to their support address with a few very pointed questions. Was told to ask them in the mastermind group or seek out the coaching program. Probably the biggest reason I dislike the program is at every turn I feel like I'm being up-sold. In the mastermind calls sometimes someone is looking for advice and after discussing it for a while a comment like "I'll fill you in offline" will be made. As if they don't want to give out that info to everyone listening to the recorded call. I even heard it on one of the landgeekpodcast episodes. Someone wanted to give a "tip of the week" but was told not to because that was "too valuable" a tip. I feel like if you really want the good material you have to pay for the coaching or mastermind program or seminars. If you've made it this far, I feel like education is worth paying for. I plan on making this strategy work but I've already found that I won't be using all the techniques taught in this program, maybe a few. That's just my two cents. I hope it seemed fair and without emotion. (I have some opinions I have developed but will hold my tongue) Any new comers I'd suggest passing on the program, continue to teach yourself. This won't teach you anything you can't learn on your own. I'd rather have the money for more mailings. There is a private Facebook group called "Land Motivation" which is far better with supporting members. Good luck to everyone!