Why are Buffalo, Syracuse,... all lumped into one "Upstate" forum

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I expect government to fail to differentiate between anything that's not NYC, but Biggerpockets can do better. Rochester, Buffalo, Syracuse, Ithaca: these are all independent markets with independent happenings. Why  aren't they independent subforums?

David MacClintock · Answer

They are VERY similar markets, with the exception of Ithica. Buffalo, ROC, Niagra, Syracuse, Utica and Binghamton are functionally the same investments. You are looking at aging populations, housing stock built largely before 1970, similar demographics with concentrated poverty in most of the urban core and money in the 2nd ring burbs. I can take most of my Rochester area research and apply it toward any of the other cities.

Ronald Starusnak · Answer

In regards to the online communities, these areas are too small for it to make sense for them to have their own forum. As is, we only get a new post here every few days if we're lucky.

Casey Sung · Answer

Newbie investor here.  Anyone investing in the Buffalo area?  Would love to hear your thoughts.  Also any good PM out there?

Thanks,

Casey

G Brian Juk · Answer

This is where keywords are important. I removed ‘upstate’ and put in Ithaca, Watkins Glen and Corning.

I haven’t had much interaction.....

Ronald Starusnak · Answer

David, what a fantastic analysis. I think BP has what is considered "upstate" pretty accurate. I can't stand when people refer to Rockland county area as upstate or driving 3 minutes out of NYC and calling it upstate.

Britt Abbey · Answer

The endless upstate definition debate.... can we at least agree that Stewart’s coffee and milk are the best?

Jay Hinrichs · Answer

not enough play  or interaction to list them independently..

Why are Buffalo, Syracuse,... all lumped into one "Upstate" forum

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