Alex Martinez Pro Wholesaler Course

[Robert Burns]

I'm looking forward recent experience from any BP folks who have bought into Alex Martinez's Pro Wholesaler course. He is focusing on using the MLS to find motivated seller leads and then making offers through the list agent on the MLS.

I would appreciate any feedback good or bad about this program which costs $7800!

Thanks in Advance!

Bob Burns

[Jonathan Greene]

You want to pay $7800 for a wholesaling course where the focus is on the MLS? How in the hell would that work or be worth it? Everything on the MLS can already be seen by the end-investors so you want to buy off the MLS and then sell the same property at an upsell off the market? Genius. Keep the money and never try to buy a course on wholesaling again.

[Kirstin A.]

Quote from @Michael Burner:

🚫 Warning: Unfair Practices by Real Estate Skills 🚫

I want to share my frustrating experience with the company “Real Estate Skills” to warn others about their questionable practices. I recently encountered a situation that left me feeling taken advantage of and deeply disappointed.

Upon expressing my reservations about the steep cost of their course $8k,  I was pressured into signing an agreement by their representative. Despite my concerns, I was convinced to proceed with the promise of a more manageable payment plan and reassurances of quick success in the real estate market. I take full responsibility for going against my  better judgment and signing  the agreement! I was vulnerable, desperate for a way to get out of my current situation and wanted it to work out and it is a lesson learned for myself. 

Tragically, my circumstances took an unexpected turn when my father passed away, leaving me struggling to cover his funeral expenses and putting me behind on rent. Despite reaching out to Real Estate Skills for understanding, I received responses that contradicted their initial promises. They offered no compassion for my situation and instead decided to withhold essential components of the course, leaving me in a precarious position.

Adding insult to injury, the course’s foundation hinges on gaining access to the multiple listing service, a privilege primarily available to licensed agents or brokers. What was presented as “easy” turned out to be a near-impossible task, highlighting a glaring gap between the company’s claims and reality.

In an effort to address my concerns, I initiated a dispute with my bank, hoping to navigate this unfortunate situation. Astonishingly, Real Estate Skills emerged victorious in the dispute, leaving me out of pocket by $2700. To make matters worse, they not only kept my money but also revoked my access to the course, leaving me empty-handed and cheated.

It’s disheartening to witness a company that boasts such high costs fail to exhibit even a shred of empathy. This ordeal has not only cost me financially but has also left me feeling misled and deceived. I urge anyone considering Real Estate Skills to think twice and be cautious before making any commitments.

Remember, your hard-earned money deserves better treatment than what I experienced. Don’t let yourself fall victim to false promises and unfair practices.

#RealEstateSkills #UnfairPractices #BuyerBeware

Thank you for this review, Michael. It really speaks for itself. What a terrible thing to go through during your fathers passing. What a horrid company policy, their treatment of you goes way beyond a lack of empathy. Wishing you well in your future endeavors, and thanks for the warning as I was signed up to learn more about their business.

All of these reviews and opinions have been helpful. The takeaway (on a wholesaling investment level) is that befriending real estate agents could be a plus, and to not completely dismiss this approach of MLS. But a company that treats someone like this is not to be trusted. 

[Brittany Barbosa]

Quote from @Patrizia Sanino:

Quote from @Jonathan Greene:

Wholesaling, done correctly, is a full-time business. The only good wholesalers are running a big business with big marketing budgets and smart outreach, as well as actual cash of their own. Many people want to dabble in wholesaling, as you said, to get deals, but that is not worth time or money unless that is your business.

I wholesale here in South Florida MLS deals and Off market deals - I m just humbling saying that at my opinion it all starts with motivation and knowing your Buyers - MLS deal I focus on more on the properties and areas where I know my buyers like the most to fix/flip or fix/rent - kinda of reverse wholesaling and then I look for those kind of MLS deals and I work with the Agents - if the seller is motivated and I know my Buyers are ready I present offers that makes sense - for sure not $ 1,000 EMD with 15 days inspections - we need to talk the Agent's language -this works well for me

on the other note I come sometimes across Off market deals where Seller are not so motivated or totally unrealistic and their asking price is not making sense - 

so at the end of the day what I want to say that a good deals is a good deal - no matter MLS or Off market - for me it is all about motivation and having a solid buyer's list

I agree with this mentality.

[Kevin Patridge Hemphill]

It’s no longer $4800 or $7800…$9800 now.

Basic info. Nothing proprietary. The back office basically says want the website says. It’s a digital/evergreen product.

Add in the Affirm financing wrinkle and the cost is north of $11K. I’m surprised Affirm would be involved.

The cost is worth $499.00, maybe $999 if they would invest in adding more value…having a FB community is not a value add.

I was expecting the material to be cutting edge & disruptive to traditional whole selling - silly me.

$11K for sign in credentials to a digital product with some videos talking about the obvious is not cutting edge or disruptive…it’s just wrong.

[Kevin Patridge Hemphill]

In hindsight, my previous post was rushed… I did not have enough time to go through the training, coaching or support offered.

After completing the training - twice - I now realize the value of the program and how it can help investors acquire deals from the MLS in a systematic manner. If a wholesale deal yields $10,000 on the low end, the value here far exceeds that.

Also, I understand that Affirm is optional. As an investor, leveraging OPM (other people's money) is something that I’m used to and based on my current situation it made sense. This is beneficial to those who also want to leverage OPM in order to get started.

In summary, if I could remove my previous post I would. I must say that every person I've spoken to ( Jonathan, Abe, Tony) at Real Estate Skills team conducts themselves with integrity and provided excellent customer service. The strategy is simple to understand, straightforward to execute and taking action is required in order to see a ROI.

[Guy Gimenez]

Quote from @Patrizia Sanino:

Quote from @Rich Hupper:

THE MLS IS NOT WHERE YOU FIND "DEALS". Deals are found working directly with motivated decision makers. That means picking up the phone and talking to them. If you can't pick up the phone and talk to strangers you are not going to get a deal.

 sorry to say it but there is nothing dishonest to engage in a conversation with an Agent that has a house on market since 200 days and offer to buy at a lower offer price - seller they believe owns the Taj Mahal and expecially after pandemic they raise asking price way too high - once again, guys we are entertaining a conversation with a seller and if the house is on market since 200 days, guess what, I believe the agent and the seller maybe a bit motivated, or what?

 If the seller had motivation, the house wouldn't have been on the market for 200 days. 

[Tim G.]

Quote from @Kevin Patridge Hemphill:

In hindsight, my previous post was rushed… I did not have enough time to go through the training, coaching or support offered.

After completing the training - twice - I now realize the value of the program and how it can help investors acquire deals from the MLS in a systematic manner. If a wholesale deal yields $10,000 on the low end, the value here far exceeds that.

Also, I understand that Affirm is optional. As an investor, leveraging OPM (other people's money) is something that I’m used to and based on my current situation it made sense. This is beneficial to those who also want to leverage OPM in order to get started.

In summary, if I could remove my previous post I would. I must say that every person I've spoken to ( Jonathan, Abe, Tony) at Real Estate Skills team conducts themselves with integrity and provided excellent customer service. The strategy is simple to understand, straightforward to execute and taking action is required in order to see a ROI.

 Have you closed a wholesale deal? 

[Ryan Zomorodi]

[Ryan Zomorodi]

@Michael Burner

Michael, this is Ryan Zomorodi one of the owners of Real Estate Skills. Your feedback regarding your course experience is appreciated, and it’s important to ensure an accurate representation of our interactions.

When you reached out to our team with your situation, we empathized deeply with your circumstances. We extended multiple options, offering you the choice to either cancel or indefinitely pause the account, all while retaining access to the program. Notably, we went the extra mile by granting you continued training access, a gesture exceeding standard procedures, especially when many clients pay for the entire training upfront.

Following our agreed-upon resolution, a dispute was initiated with your bank, which prompted our efforts to re-establish contact. Unfortunately, it appears that your contact details might have changed, impeding our attempts to reconnect.

Regarding the course foundation, while formal MLS access is traditionally acquired by a licensed Realtor, it's essential to note that there are diverse pathways available to gain access, ensuring that your ability to close deals isn't solely dependent on it. At Real Estate Skills, we've witnessed and participated in successful deals closed without ever accessing the official MLS, utilizing platforms such as Zillow and Redfin.

We strive to ensure that our interactions uphold the highest standards of integrity and transparency. It’s critical to emphasize that, regardless of any situation, you have the unequivocal right to decline or say no at any point. It’s crucial to emphasize that, while we offer guidance and support, we don’t guarantee success. We’re transparent that closing deals requires dedicated effort and commitment on your part.

Your recent public statements inaccurately depict our interactions. Despite our genuine understanding and support for your situation surrounding the passing of your father, the claims made do not align with the assistance we provided.

Our commitment remains steadfast in continually improving our methods, curriculum, and student support. Should you wish to delve further into this matter, please reach out.

Warm regards,
Ryan Zomorodi
Real Estate Skills

[Josh Wagner]

This sounds like a horrible waste of $7,800. You'd be better off learning the basics and some intermediate skills on youtube alone, and then using the profits you make from taking action to purchase a better coaching program than that. I recommend you focus on just learning from free resources, taking action, and worrying about mentorship/coaching later on. You can easily make $100k or more per year without any coaching and without a fancy operation. 

[Sherri Bernier]

Quote from @Patrizia Sanino:

Quote from @Jonathan Greene:

Wholesaling, done correctly, is a full-time business. The only good wholesalers are running a big business with big marketing budgets and smart outreach, as well as actual cash of their own. Many people want to dabble in wholesaling, as you said, to get deals, but that is not worth time or money unless that is your business.

I wholesale here in South Florida MLS deals and Off market deals - I m just humbling saying that at my opinion it all starts with motivation and knowing your Buyers - MLS deal I focus on more on the properties and areas where I know my buyers like the most to fix/flip or fix/rent - kinda of reverse wholesaling and then I look for those kind of MLS deals and I work with the Agents - if the seller is motivated and I know my Buyers are ready I present offers that makes sense - for sure not $ 1,000 EMD with 15 days inspections - we need to talk the Agent's language -this works well for me

on the other note I come sometimes across Off market deals where Seller are not so motivated or totally unrealistic and their asking price is not making sense - 

so at the end of the day what I want to say that a good deals is a good deal - no matter MLS or Off market - for me it is all about motivation and having a solid buyer's list

Hi Patrizia, I agree 100% I get deals from the MLS and off market too. IMO snubbing any way in which one can get a deal makes no sense to me cause any way you go it's going to be competitive but in the end it's the one who follows up the best ends up with the deal most of the time.In other words if you snooze you lose!

[Sherri Bernier]

Quote from @Guy Gimenez:

Quote from @Patrizia Sanino:

Quote from @Rich Hupper:

THE MLS IS NOT WHERE YOU FIND "DEALS". Deals are found working directly with motivated decision makers. That means picking up the phone and talking to them. If you can't pick up the phone and talk to strangers you are not going to get a deal.

 sorry to say it but there is nothing dishonest to engage in a conversation with an Agent that has a house on market since 200 days and offer to buy at a lower offer price - seller they believe owns the Taj Mahal and expecially after pandemic they raise asking price way too high - once again, guys we are entertaining a conversation with a seller and if the house is on market since 200 days, guess what, I believe the agent and the seller maybe a bit motivated, or what?

 If the seller had motivation, the house wouldn't have been on the market for 200 days. 

A single minute can change for an unmotivated seller to change into a motivated seller never mind 200 days. Followup is the secret.

[Guy Gimenez]

Quote from @Kevin Patridge Hemphill:

In hindsight, my previous post was rushed… I did not have enough time to go through the training, coaching or support offered.

After completing the training - twice - I now realize the value of the program and how it can help investors acquire deals from the MLS in a systematic manner. If a wholesale deal yields $10,000 on the low end, the value here far exceeds that.

Also, I understand that Affirm is optional. As an investor, leveraging OPM (other people's money) is something that I’m used to and based on my current situation it made sense. This is beneficial to those who also want to leverage OPM in order to get started.

In summary, if I could remove my previous post I would. I must say that every person I've spoken to ( Jonathan, Abe, Tony) at Real Estate Skills team conducts themselves with integrity and provided excellent customer service. The strategy is simple to understand, straightforward to execute and taking action is required in order to see a ROI.

 Looks like someone was threatened with litigation over their review. I think there's enough smoke in these responses to realize there's also fire. 

[Jerryll Noorden]

Quote from @Guy Gimenez:

Quote from @Kevin Patridge Hemphill:

In hindsight, my previous post was rushed… I did not have enough time to go through the training, coaching or support offered.

After completing the training - twice - I now realize the value of the program and how it can help investors acquire deals from the MLS in a systematic manner. If a wholesale deal yields $10,000 on the low end, the value here far exceeds that.

Also, I understand that Affirm is optional. As an investor, leveraging OPM (other people's money) is something that I’m used to and based on my current situation it made sense. This is beneficial to those who also want to leverage OPM in order to get started.

In summary, if I could remove my previous post I would. I must say that every person I've spoken to ( Jonathan, Abe, Tony) at Real Estate Skills team conducts themselves with integrity and provided excellent customer service. The strategy is simple to understand, straightforward to execute and taking action is required in order to see a ROI.

 Looks like someone was threatened with litigation over their review. I think there's enough smoke in these responses to realize there's also fire. 

 My issue is this:

Their ads!

1: "Everyone is competing for off-market deals, so do MLS (on-market deals)".

Well, everyone is fishing by putting shrimp on their hooks. Too much competition... So just put a rock on your hook. No one is doing that, right?

2: "Off-market deals have a lot of competition, so forget off-market deals and do MLS"

Off-market deals competition:

1. Savy Investors.

MLS Competition:

1. EVERY gaadamn Investor

2. Average home buyers

3. Real estate agents (who also invest)

3: "Hard to find off-market motivated sellers, so do MLS because everyone on MLS is motivated to sell".

Wanting to sell your house doesn't mean you are a motivated seller. A motivated seller is anyone willing to sell their house BELOW MARKET VALUE.

Most people on MLS are NOT motivated sellers. MLS has mostly people who want market value for their house.

My beef is this. They are either really dumb and stupid if they think these claims are true, or they are extremely dishonest to manipulate their wording to trick the not-so-smart people into buying their crap).

So pick one guys. Either they are very dumb or they are scammers, (or both?)

I have no issue with them having a course. I have one. My issue is their desperate dishonesty to trick people into buying their course. 

[Guy Gimenez]

Quote from @Sherri Bernier:

Quote from @Guy Gimenez:

Quote from @Patrizia Sanino:

Quote from @Rich Hupper:

THE MLS IS NOT WHERE YOU FIND "DEALS". Deals are found working directly with motivated decision makers. That means picking up the phone and talking to them. If you can't pick up the phone and talk to strangers you are not going to get a deal.

 sorry to say it but there is nothing dishonest to engage in a conversation with an Agent that has a house on market since 200 days and offer to buy at a lower offer price - seller they believe owns the Taj Mahal and expecially after pandemic they raise asking price way too high - once again, guys we are entertaining a conversation with a seller and if the house is on market since 200 days, guess what, I believe the agent and the seller maybe a bit motivated, or what?

 If the seller had motivation, the house wouldn't have been on the market for 200 days. 

A single minute can change for an unmotivated seller to change into a motivated seller never mind 200 days. Followup is the secret.

There's a difference between a motivated seller and a potentially motivated seller sometime in the future. Of course follow up is essential. But hunting for deals in the retail pond will provide less than desired results...unless of course the investor wants to pay near retail and bank on appreciate...which of course is fool's gold. 

[Don Konipol]

The only time I have been able to find below market deals on MLS was when the local real estate market had cratered and there was tremendous supply and little demand. Last time specifically for me was Phoenix area in 2011-2013.

[Sherri Schermerhorn]

Would you do a You tube video on how to assign vs double closing with emphasis on assigning? I found a few pre-foreclosure's that I'd like to buy and then assign one to my daughter and her husband and one to my fiancé, ....I'm sure I could dig one up that's already out there, but it seems you have some strong knowledge, I'd like to learn from you.

Quote from @Jerryll Noorden:

Guys just think about what he is pitching for crying out loud.

He craps on ANYTHING and EVERYTHING that gets you "off market leads", and then says: "see everyone is competing for off-market deals, so it is wrong". .. Go to MLS.

1) As if there is no competition on MLS?!

I mean, really?!

And 

2) It is like saying...

Everyone eats food, so food has huge competition, so it is better to start eating rocks!

Yes the REASON everyone is competing for off-market leads is because there is where the money is!

Just stupid.

If you have a course, great. Sell the product because the course works. Sell it based on how good your product is. Don't sell it by playing mind and word games tricking people into thinking that what you are saying makes sense.. when it does not.

And Mr. Green is correct. 

NEVER buy a course on wholesaling. Wholesaling is getting a house under contract below market value and assigning the contract.

There is nothing hard or mysterious about wholesaling. It is lead generation that is hard. What is the point of a wholesale course where they tell you to go drive for dollars, or knock on doors, or worse.. stalk MLS for "deals".

Maybe I should sell a course on wholesaling!

[Chaim Shwartz]

Quote from @Kevin Patridge Hemphill:

In hindsight, my previous post was rushed… I did not have enough time to go through the training, coaching or support offered.

After completing the training - twice - I now realize the value of the program and how it can help investors acquire deals from the MLS in a systematic manner. If a wholesale deal yields $10,000 on the low end, the value here far exceeds that.

Also, I understand that Affirm is optional. As an investor, leveraging OPM (other people's money) is something that I’m used to and based on my current situation it made sense. This is beneficial to those who also want to leverage OPM in order to get started.

In summary, if I could remove my previous post I would. I must say that every person I've spoken to ( Jonathan, Abe, Tony) at Real Estate Skills team conducts themselves with integrity and provided excellent customer service. The strategy is simple to understand, straightforward to execute and taking action is required in order to see a ROI.

 Have you closed any deals using his methods?