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All Forum Posts by: Jonathan Greene

Jonathan Greene has started 273 posts and replied 6512 times.

Post: The Downfall of BiggerPockets Forums?

Jonathan Greene
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  • Mendham, NJ
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I just tried to respond to a few things in the forum by going to the unanswered forum, and it was basically all dried dirt. There's nothing to do here anymore.

 You could answer why in the world somebody would be down to invest money their money in a syndication where the sponsor was alleged to have gotten paid $4.4M upfront.


My response would only be a meme, because who didn't see this coming?


 Based on the amount of money raised, sounds like a whole lotta people didn't lol.


This is the group of LPs who do no due diligence, don't read anything, sign at will, and then complain that they didn't know what was happening. They chose not to know.

Agreed, but it doesn't mean public scrutiny of the whole thing isn't still appropriate.


I think everything should be publicly scrutinized. Transparency is what people should seek, not an AI proforma.


 After you've been in the real estate game for awhile, the most obvious thing in the world is that it's a dirty business filled with nothing but sharks. And the ones that are out there presenting themselves as the "nice guy" and "your friend" and "i'm not in it for the money, i'm in it to help people" are always the most cutthroat sharks of them all.


It's a world of grifters and prey. The grift is pretty obvious. Most people fall for it because they want to be part of some club. Unfortunately, that club is burning money of your own to support a fake guru.

Post: The Downfall of BiggerPockets Forums?

Jonathan Greene
#5 Starting Out Contributor
Posted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Mendham, NJ
  • Posts 6,726
  • Votes 7,759
Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @Jonathan Greene:
Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @Jonathan Greene:
Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @Jonathan Greene:

I just tried to respond to a few things in the forum by going to the unanswered forum, and it was basically all dried dirt. There's nothing to do here anymore.

 You could answer why in the world somebody would be down to invest money their money in a syndication where the sponsor was alleged to have gotten paid $4.4M upfront.


My response would only be a meme, because who didn't see this coming?


 Based on the amount of money raised, sounds like a whole lotta people didn't lol.


This is the group of LPs who do no due diligence, don't read anything, sign at will, and then complain that they didn't know what was happening. They chose not to know.

Agreed, but it doesn't mean public scrutiny of the whole thing isn't still appropriate.


I think everything should be publicly scrutinized. Transparency is what people should seek, not an AI proforma.

Post: The Downfall of BiggerPockets Forums?

Jonathan Greene
#5 Starting Out Contributor
Posted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Mendham, NJ
  • Posts 6,726
  • Votes 7,759
Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @Jonathan Greene:
Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @Jonathan Greene:

I just tried to respond to a few things in the forum by going to the unanswered forum, and it was basically all dried dirt. There's nothing to do here anymore.

 You could answer why in the world somebody would be down to invest money their money in a syndication where the sponsor was alleged to have gotten paid $4.4M upfront.


My response would only be a meme, because who didn't see this coming?


 Based on the amount of money raised, sounds like a whole lotta people didn't lol.


This is the group of LPs who do no due diligence, don't read anything, sign at will, and then complain that they didn't know what was happening. They chose not to know.

Post: The Downfall of BiggerPockets Forums?

Jonathan Greene
#5 Starting Out Contributor
Posted
  • Real Estate Consultant
  • Mendham, NJ
  • Posts 6,726
  • Votes 7,759
Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @Jonathan Greene:

I just tried to respond to a few things in the forum by going to the unanswered forum, and it was basically all dried dirt. There's nothing to do here anymore.

 You could answer why in the world somebody would be down to invest money their money in a syndication where the sponsor was alleged to have gotten paid $4.4M upfront.


My response would only be a meme, because who didn't see this coming?

Post: Real Estate Commission Rules in 2024

Jonathan Greene
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  • Mendham, NJ
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And in another BP shocker, the original poster has closed his account.

Post: Real Estate Commission Rules in 2024

Jonathan Greene
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Quote from @Heather Bailey:

This is a really frustrating situation. As a real estate agent, we are supposed to make a pricing recommendation, but the client always makes the final decision. As far as that buyers agent commission law, commissions are negotiable. It should have been outlined clearly in the contract who was going to pay the buyers agent commission and she could have pushed back on that. I don't know what the laws are in her state but her only option would be to address the issue in attorney review if that exists in her state and if possible, based on where they are in the process.  Canceling the contract would require cause and again it depends on the state. This is a really unfortunate situation and that was not an ethical competent  real estate agent. I'm sorry to hear how her experience has been.

The processes should have been very clearly discussed.  Additionally, a seller should be able to list the house for what they want,  a good agent in response to listing a house above their recommendation should say: "ok, we'll give it 2 weeks - let's try and test the market.   Then she could've explained that there is a risk to coming in too high and having a Listing age. Statistics do show that houses that sit longer tend to sell for a little less. But, it sounds like this could have been a case where there could have been a higher price or another buyer out there.  Additionally, if the market conditions are putting pressure on price, this is  an opportunity when we use the buyer agent commission as a negotiating tool to increase the net proceeds.  If price is below what we are hoping,  we can push back on having to pay that buyer agent commission. I'm in New Jersey and most sellers here are paying the buyer agent commission.   

The bottom line, everything is negotiable in a real estate transaction. If your real estate agent is being very rigid and telling you what to do without making you feel like you can have a say in the process, get another real estate agent in to give you another opinion.  I'm sorry this is how this worked out for her.  Let us know exactly where she is in the process. But, you said she was closing in a few weeks so it sounds like it may be too late. That's unfortunate. I can't stress enough - if something doesn't feel right, you are within your right to stop and get an explanation or get another professional. Never sign anything without knowing exactly what you're committing to.  


This is the absolute worst response I have ever read in my life about being a real estate agent. You have a very small set of facts and ALL of the facts presented in the original post show that the house was priced right, got an accepted (no one twister her arm) offer in five hours, and was properly marketed in the area in terms of the compensation.

Your response is what makes real estate agents dislike other real estate agents. It's very likely that the commission was discussed and agreed upon since the seller signed the listing agreement with the compensation on it.

As an agent, going against another agent, with no evidence at all of improper conduct, and then saying this was unethical, is a travesty to the business. You wrote 3-5x what the original poster wrote for what reason?

It's also horrendous advice to tell someone they should test their price for two weeks because that is market-dependent. More days on market and a price reduction never helps market a listing. Proper pricing from the beginning is the best strategy and it seems like the agent hit the nail on the head.

Post: The Downfall of BiggerPockets Forums?

Jonathan Greene
#5 Starting Out Contributor
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  • Mendham, NJ
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I just tried to respond to a few things in the forum by going to the unanswered forum, and it was basically all dried dirt. There's nothing to do here anymore.

Post: Looking to invest near Binghamton University (Upstate NY)

Jonathan Greene
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Where do you live, and who told you to invest in Binghampton? Have you ever owned a rental property? Have you ever done college rentals?

You can surely do ok in Binghampton with this strategy, but it doesn't sound like you've done much due diligence on anything else. What's the goal? Cash flow? College renters will cash flow there, but will be high maintenance. Are you going to self-manage or hire management?

Post: Real Estate Commission Rules in 2024

Jonathan Greene
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  • Mendham, NJ
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She feels scammed because she got good advice on price and got a full price offer within 5 hours of going on the market? I am a little confused. Does she think she still would have gotten $380,000? Are you trying to help her or sabotage her sale?

The listing agent should have explained that she has the option of compensating the buyer's agent or leaving it open to the buyer to decide, or making the buyer pay their own compensation, but this is market-specific as to what is working and the reality is that not much has changed. In my market, almost nothing has changed. Sellers are still offering to pay the buyer compensation because when they don't, it comes out of their sale price, unless it's an incredibly competitive market.

It sounds like your sister got great advice and service and is about to mess up a sale because you have been reading the news too much.

Post: New to REI & BiggerPockets

Jonathan Greene
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You just missed our meetup last night in Whippany. They are the first WED of every month in different locations and are always listed on BP.

It may sound ideal, but for most people new to the game, the numbers don't like how they thought they would look to house hack in North Jersey right now. You also have to pinpoint where you mean by North Jersey - Hudson, Bergen, Essex, Passaic?


It's near impossible under 600k and even those would be 203k loans most likely with rehab, depending on your neighborhood choice. A lot of competition and low, but decent inventory. All multis generally sell over to way over list price and get 4-5 to 10-20 offers. It's not easy, but it's doable.

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