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How difficult would it be to manage a duplex or multi-family property from 2.5 - 3 hours away?
I reside in VT but I am interested in investing in property in Manchester, NH and the Seacoast area of NH. I'm not a complete newbie as I do own and manage a rental condo and manage 95% of a multi-unit building (partial ownership).
I've primarily been searching in Manchester but properties need a lot more work than I can put into them to get them going or they get snatched up quickly. Would anyone be able to provide any advice? Keep searching in Manchester or are there other areas that would be better for someone starting out with a multi-unit property?
Any suggestions / advice is appreciated.
Thank you!
Hello!
How difficult would it be to manage a duplex or multi-family property from 2.5 - 3 hours away?
I reside in VT but I am interested in investing in property in Manchester, NH and the Seacoast area of NH. I'm not a complete newbie as I do own and manage a rental condo and manage 95% of a multi-unit building (partial ownership).
I've primarily been searching in Manchester but properties need a lot more work than I can put into them to get them going or they get snatched up quickly. Would anyone be able to provide any advice? Keep searching in Manchester or are there other areas that would be better for someone starting out with a multi-unit property?
Any suggestions / advice is appreciated.
Thank you!
Hello!
How difficult would it be to manage a duplex or multi-family property from 2.5 - 3 hours away?
I reside in VT but I am interested in investing in property in Manchester, NH and the Seacoast area of NH. I'm not a complete newbie as I do own and manage a rental condo and manage 95% of a multi-unit building (partial ownership).
I've primarily been searching in Manchester but properties need a lot more work than I can put into them to get them going or they get snatched up quickly. Would anyone be able to provide any advice? Keep searching in Manchester or are there other areas that would be better for someone starting out with a multi-unit property?
Any suggestions / advice is appreciated.
Thank you!
Hi Kristin,
I personally think 2-3 hours away is the ideal distance, if choosing out of state investing for your strategy. You are far enough away that you naturally create systems and you a close enough if you need to go check something out you can relatively easily.
I am a real estate agent and investor in the Manchester area, and I personally love the market long term. I would maybe expand your search to include, Nashua and Concord as you will be able to get a better feel for the Southern NH market as a whole. Feel free to reach out with any questions!
Hello!
How difficult would it be to manage a duplex or multi-family property from 2.5 - 3 hours away?
I reside in VT but I am interested in investing in property in Manchester, NH and the Seacoast area of NH. I'm not a complete newbie as I do own and manage a rental condo and manage 95% of a multi-unit building (partial ownership).
I've primarily been searching in Manchester but properties need a lot more work than I can put into them to get them going or they get snatched up quickly. Would anyone be able to provide any advice? Keep searching in Manchester or are there other areas that would be better for someone starting out with a multi-unit property?
Any suggestions / advice is appreciated.
Thank you!
Hello!
How difficult would it be to manage a duplex or multi-family property from 2.5 - 3 hours away?
I reside in VT but I am interested in investing in property in Manchester, NH and the Seacoast area of NH. I'm not a complete newbie as I do own and manage a rental condo and manage 95% of a multi-unit building (partial ownership).
I've primarily been searching in Manchester but properties need a lot more work than I can put into them to get them going or they get snatched up quickly. Would anyone be able to provide any advice? Keep searching in Manchester or are there other areas that would be better for someone starting out with a multi-unit property?
Any suggestions / advice is appreciated.
Thank you!
Being 2–3 hours away is actually very manageable, especially if you already have experience owning and managing rentals. The key is having a reliable local team and being realistic about the condition of the property you’re buying. Markets like Manchester can be competitive, which is why a lot of investors eventually expand their search to other areas where prices are lower and deals are easier to find. Some even look into Midwest markets where duplexes and small multifamily properties are more affordable and can still cash flow well, making the distance less of an issue if you have good property management in place.
Kristen - great questions! I think from that far away you'd need a Property Management company but you can customize what services they offer you. Some properties need some work, yes, but, as a local Manchester, NH agent, there are also a lot on the market right now that are pretty turn-key. Would love to chat more about this if you're interested in connecting. Good luck in your search and investing journey!
Hello!
How difficult would it be to manage a duplex or multi-family property from 2.5 - 3 hours away?
I reside in VT but I am interested in investing in property in Manchester, NH and the Seacoast area of NH. I'm not a complete newbie as I do own and manage a rental condo and manage 95% of a multi-unit building (partial ownership).
I've primarily been searching in Manchester but properties need a lot more work than I can put into them to get them going or they get snatched up quickly. Would anyone be able to provide any advice? Keep searching in Manchester or are there other areas that would be better for someone starting out with a multi-unit property?
Any suggestions / advice is appreciated.
Thank you!
A common issue, so Copy & Paste info below:
You’re ALWAYS better off investing locally, where it’s easier to:
Next best location is somewhere else you lived, where you have an existing network of family & friends to help you as accomplish the above list as needed.
If you invest OOS, your biggest challenge won't be finding properties to meet your goals on paper, it’ll be successfully outsourcing all of the above.
The biggest mistake we see OOS investors making in our market, over and over again, is not fully understanding Neighborhood/Property/Tenant Classes and how they impact your probability of success!
They all run their ROI numbers assuming Class A results – when buying Class B, C & even D rentals.
Then they’re shocked when their performance expectations aren't met😞
If you choose to invest OOS, and have little to no landlord experience, we highly recommend targeting Class B Neighborhoods/Properties/Tenants. If you target Class C, you better be prepared emotionally & financially for plenty of challenges.
You can find Class B properties in the Midwest to BRRRR, but it will take more digging and YOU will need to understand how to analyze & identify them - because a lot of agents, wholesalers, PMCs, etc. will try to sell you Class C or D misrepresented as Class B:
Why is Property Class so important for investors to understand and apply in their investing strategies?
Because the Property Class dictates the Class of the tenant pool that the property will attract.
The Tenant Class greatly impacts rental income stability and property maintenance/damage by tenants.
Both Property Class and Tenant Class will affect what type of contractors, handymen and property management companies you should target and be willing to deal with a property.
The Property Class will also impact the maintenance & renovations you do to, “Maintain to the Neighborhood”.
Why is that important?
Well, if you buy & renovate a property in Class D area to Class A standards, what Tenant Class will actually rent it?
Or, if you put several Class D tenants in a Class A four-plex, what do you think will happen to the property?
So, if you fail to apply the correct assumptions to a property, your expectations won’t be met, and it may even be a financial disaster.
We use the following to rank Property Classes, in order of importance:
Key metrics for each Property Class:
Class A Properties:
Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores 680+, no convictions/evictions in last 7 years.
Tenant Default: 0-5% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
Section 8: Class A rents are too high and won’t be approved.
Vacancies: 5-10%, depending on market conditions.
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 3-5 years for positive cashflow, but you get highest relative rent & value appreciation.
Class B Properties:
Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores 620-680, some blemishes, no convictions/evictions in last 5 years.
Tenant Default: 5-10% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
Vacancies: 10-15%, depending on market conditions.
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 1-3 years for positive cashflow, balanced amounts of relative rent & value appreciation.
Section 8: Class B rents are usually too high for the Section 8 program.
Class C Properties:
Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores 560-620, many blemishes, but should have no convictions/evictions in last 3 years. Verifying recent 2-years of rental history very important! Same for 2-years of job/income stability.
Tenant Default: 10-20% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
Section 8: Class C rents usually meet program requirements, proper screening still recommended.
Vacancies: 10-20%, depending on market conditions and tenant screening.
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Should cashflow immediately, at the lower end of relative rent & value appreciation.
Class D Properties:
Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores under 560, little to no good tradelines, lots of collections & chargeoffs, but should have no convictions/evictions in last 12 months. Verifying last 2-years of rental history and income/employment extremely important to find the “best of the worst”.
Tenant Default: 20-30% probability of eviction or early lease termination.
Section 8: Class D rents meet program requirements, often challenges to pass Section 8 inspection.
Vacancies: 20%+, depending on market conditions and tenant screening.
Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, all cashflow with little, maybe even negative, relative rent & value appreciation.
Where did we get our FICO credit score information from?
Check out this chart:
|
FICO Score |
Pct of Population |
Default Probability |
|
800 or more |
13.00% |
1.00% |
|
750-799 |
27.00% |
1.00% |
|
700-749 |
18.00% |
4.40% |
|
650-699 |
15.00% |
8.90% |
|
600-649 |
12.00% |
15.80% |
|
550-599 |
8.00% |
22.50% |
|
500-549 |
5.00% |
28.40% |
|
Less than 499 |
2.00% |
41.00% |
Make sure you understand the Class of properties you are looking at and the corresponding results to expect.
For example, Metro Detroit has 132 cities and the City of Detroit 183 Neighborhoods, which we’re analyzing and classifying to make better investing decisions.
Horror Stories from those that did NOT Understand What they were Buying:
https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/48/topics/1137397-baltimore-a-path-to-never-ending-pain
https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/432/topics/1231840-sell-at-a-loss-or-rent-at-a-loss
https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/311/topics/840134-memphis-turnkey-tenant-turnover-costs
https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/963/topics/1195280-experience-of-oos-investing-in-cleveland-after-15-yearsHello!
How difficult would it be to manage a duplex or multi-family property from 2.5 - 3 hours away?
I reside in VT but I am interested in investing in property in Manchester, NH and the Seacoast area of NH. I'm not a complete newbie as I do own and manage a rental condo and manage 95% of a multi-unit building (partial ownership).
I've primarily been searching in Manchester but properties need a lot more work than I can put into them to get them going or they get snatched up quickly. Would anyone be able to provide any advice? Keep searching in Manchester or are there other areas that would be better for someone starting out with a multi-unit property?
Any suggestions / advice is appreciated.
Thank you!
Hello!
How difficult would it be to manage a duplex or multi-family property from 2.5 - 3 hours away?
I reside in VT but I am interested in investing in property in Manchester, NH and the Seacoast area of NH. I'm not a complete newbie as I do own and manage a rental condo and manage 95% of a multi-unit building (partial ownership).
I've primarily been searching in Manchester but properties need a lot more work than I can put into them to get them going or they get snatched up quickly. Would anyone be able to provide any advice? Keep searching in Manchester or are there other areas that would be better for someone starting out with a multi-unit property?
Any suggestions / advice is appreciated.
Thank you!
Managing from 2.5–3 hours away is very doable, especially with the multi-unit experience you already have. The most important step is building a strong local team before you buy. Interview property managers in the area now so you have someone reliable handling emergencies, tenants, and day-to-day issues.
Manchester offers solid multi-family opportunities, but the market moves fast and many properties need significant work. If you are open to it, also look at Concord and Nashua. Concord in particular often gives first-time multi-unit buyers a slower pace, more inventory, and better cash flow numbers with less competition.
Focus on turnkey or very light value-add properties at first. Heavy rehabs from a distance add unnecessary stress. Run your numbers with property management fees of 8–10% plus solid reserves included.
You are already ahead with your current experience. Get the right team in place and remote ownership becomes much more manageable.
Hello!
How difficult would it be to manage a duplex or multi-family property from 2.5 - 3 hours away?
I reside in VT but I am interested in investing in property in Manchester, NH and the Seacoast area of NH. I'm not a complete newbie as I do own and manage a rental condo and manage 95% of a multi-unit building (partial ownership).
I've primarily been searching in Manchester but properties need a lot more work than I can put into them to get them going or they get snatched up quickly. Would anyone be able to provide any advice? Keep searching in Manchester or are there other areas that would be better for someone starting out with a multi-unit property?
Any suggestions / advice is appreciated.
Thank you!
You will find that you will make up excuses NOT to visit the property unless absolutely necessary.
This MAY lead to longer than necessary RentReady between tenants.
MAY also lead to you letting tenant requested maintenance take longer to address, which may lead to them not renewing.
Same issue with nonpayments.
As @Dominic Mazzarella mentions, you will need systems to avoid all this.