New to Real Estate · Member since 2024 · 25 posts · 14 votes
Can I purchase a property using a traditional mortgage without being physically present for any part of the process? A relative who does long-distance real estate investing told me that I have to sign the final loan document and the transfer of ownership document in person. Is this true?
If the state matters, I'm interested in Connecticut
Can I purchase a property using a traditional mortgage without being physically present for any part of the process? A relative who does long-distance real estate investing told me that I have to sign the final loan document and the transfer of ownership document in person. Is this true?
If the state matters, I'm interested in Connecticut
The key to understanding being “in person” is that you can be “in person” anywhere there is a notary or other person who can certify your signature… typically. Some documents require “wet” signatures… meaning hand signed. But when people are out of town / out of state the title company can hire a mobile notary near you and they will fedex the documents to your local area to sign. There is usually extra charges on closing to pay for that service… but it is minimal.
Can I purchase a property using a traditional mortgage without being physically present for any part of the process? A relative who does long-distance real estate investing told me that I have to sign the final loan document and the transfer of ownership document in person. Is this true?
If the state matters, I'm interested in Connecticut
The key to understanding being “in person” is that you can be “in person” anywhere there is a notary or other person who can certify your signature… typically. Some documents require “wet” signatures… meaning hand signed. But when people are out of town / out of state the title company can hire a mobile notary near you and they will fedex the documents to your local area to sign. There is usually extra charges on closing to pay for that service… but it is minimal.
Can I purchase a property using a traditional mortgage without being physically present for any part of the process? A relative who does long-distance real estate investing told me that I have to sign the final loan document and the transfer of ownership document in person. Is this true?
If the state matters, I'm interested in Connecticut
The key to understanding being “in person” is that you can be “in person” anywhere there is a notary or other person who can certify your signature… typically. Some documents require “wet” signatures… meaning hand signed. But when people are out of town / out of state the title company can hire a mobile notary near you and they will fedex the documents to your local area to sign. There is usually extra charges on closing to pay for that service… but it is minimal.
All the best!
Randy
Thanks for the quick and helpful answer. Do you know how it works if I'm out of the country? Can I use a local notary or would I have to go to a US consulate/embassy.
Can I purchase a property using a traditional mortgage without being physically present for any part of the process? A relative who does long-distance real estate investing told me that I have to sign the final loan document and the transfer of ownership document in person. Is this true?
If the state matters, I'm interested in Connecticut
The key to understanding being “in person” is that you can be “in person” anywhere there is a notary or other person who can certify your signature… typically. Some documents require “wet” signatures… meaning hand signed. But when people are out of town / out of state the title company can hire a mobile notary near you and they will fedex the documents to your local area to sign. There is usually extra charges on closing to pay for that service… but it is minimal.
All the best!
Randy
Thanks for the quick and helpful answer. Do you know how it works if I'm out of the country? Can I use a local notary or would I have to go to a US consulate/embassy.
You would want to get with your lender or title company. They are really the only ones that can give you an accurate answer to your specific situation. Perhaps others can chime in.
@Matt Wan Many lenders require wet signatures on at least the Promissory Note but if yours does not, as a US citizen you could do the entire signing anywhere on the planet with a good internet connection + mic + camera via Remote Online Notarization (RON) for less than $200.
If wet signatures are required, the answer then depends upon what foreign country you are in. If that country is part of the Hague Convention, a local official can handle the signing and attach an Apostille authenticating the document(s). If not, you'll likely need to sign at the US consulate/embassy... and those appointments often need to be scheduled well in advance.
Real Estate Agent · OH · Member since 2021 · 348 posts · 602 votes
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My out-of-state clients in Ohio use a mobile notary for anything less than 4 units. A notary meets at their home or office with the documents. Some commercial lenders I've worked with have required the buyer to wet sign in the State, so they've had to fly in for the closing. Ask the lender to see if this is something that they require to plan ahead
Can I purchase a property using a traditional mortgage without being physically present for any part of the process? A relative who does long-distance real estate investing told me that I have to sign the final loan document and the transfer of ownership document in person. Is this true?
If the state matters, I'm interested in Connecticut
Mobile notary is the closest thing you will have to "being present" for, and they're coming to you
Lender · Chicago, IL · Member since 2017 · 108 posts · 34 votes
1y
Hi @Matt Wan. I'm a licensed mortgage broker and have closed loans with clients out of the country. In one case they used a notary at the local US consulate. In another, they used a POA (power of attorney). You should contact both your lender and your title company to understand their requirements.
Rental Property Investor · Member since 2018 · 826 posts · 810 votes
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I've purchased all of my properties while out of state or out of country. Out of state is usually easier as mobile notary will often work. Out of country requires a trip to US embassy.
Investor · Milwaukee - Mequon, WI · Member since 2010 · 5k+ posts · 7k+ votes
1y
We work with a lot of OOS investors and showings, inspections, and lending can all be done remote very easily.
What you can't do remote is get a sense for the neighborhood and asset quality. That's why we require clients to spend a couple days with us in Milwaukee up front, so we can get on the same page and determine an asset quality.
Hint: the hood looks much better on a spreadsheet than up close in person.
Can I purchase a property using a traditional mortgage without being physically present for any part of the process? A relative who does long-distance real estate investing told me that I have to sign the final loan document and the transfer of ownership document in person. Is this true?
If the state matters, I'm interested in Connecticut
Hi Matt! These days, most lenders and title companies are set up for remote closings using a mobile notary. Being out of the country adds some extra steps. You'll need either a POA or schedule an appointment at the nearest U.S. embassy or consulate for document signing - and you need to plan this well in advance! Happy to connect and answer any questions you may have.
yes but... is that actually your biggest concern? as @Marcus Auerbach alluded to, out of state / remote / out of country investing is difficult... do you have everything else lined up?
yes but... is that actually your biggest concern? as @Marcus Auerbach alluded to, out of state / remote / out of country investing is difficult... do you have everything else lined up?
It's not my biggest concern, but it is a factor. If I have to buy a last-minute ticket or spend $1,000 or so for notarized signatures at a consulate, then it has a significant effect on my choices.
Real Estate Broker · Milwaukee, WI · Member since 2015 · 299 posts · 90 votes
1y
Being a lender for 10 years, all is that we required from the title company and the lender is that a notarized close was to take place. I've seen already that the lender overnight's the docs and they buyer had to take them to get notarized. But in most cases the title co will reach out to a notary closer and add their fee to the closing stmt. Still alot cheaper than a plane ticket :)
Can I purchase a property using a traditional mortgage without being physically present for any part of the process? A relative who does long-distance real estate investing told me that I have to sign the final loan document and the transfer of ownership document in person. Is this true?
If the state matters, I'm interested in Connecticut
90% of our clients is OOS investors and our business process is tailor-made for them. We help run the numbers, set up showings and video record them, and load up everything in a Google Drive folder. They look at the property when they are able and can write on the property at that time. How we protect our buyers is with the inspection, appraisal and financing contingencies. These are three phases in the buying process where the buyer could walk away from the deal. If you find something wrong with the property after you have an inspection, this is the point where you can negotiate the price or have the seller fix the problem. Appraisal is where if the value of the property didn't meet the value of the loan, you can negotiate the price to lower it. Financing contingency is there if you can't get the loan at the amount you thought, interest rate is raised or your payment changed higher than you put in the loan could give you an out. Obviously, you should work with a good agent, lender, and home inspector to assist with each phase to ensure you are getting the best deal. To answer your questions, you don't have to present for any part of the deal. I have investors who never saw their property in person for almost a whole year or more because they have the right team in place. Get the right team and you will only have to worry about paying bills and collecting cash flow.
Great question. Hiring a mobile notary is absolutely doable and how most of my out of state clients close on their SF/ Small MF deals. Larger multifamily deals may require you to be physically present for closing, but at that point is a better question for your lender/ title company.
Rental Property Investor · Ogden, UT · Member since 2019 · 8 posts · 0 votes
1y
I'm actually a remote notary! I do closings for people all the time. Just the other day I was able to close for a seller who is living in Taiwan and I'm located in Utah. I would love to help if you're in need.
Can I purchase a property using a traditional mortgage without being physically present for any part of the process? A relative who does long-distance real estate investing told me that I have to sign the final loan document and the transfer of ownership document in person. Is this true?
If the state matters, I'm interested in Connecticut
Yes, but it's best to come for the inspection if you can.