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Charlie Moore

Rental Property Investor · D.C · Member since 2019 · 501 posts · 102 votes

Would you ever "Re-Rent" Your property to an unfavorable ex tenant?

Have a tenant from a few months ago ( did not renew her lease, because he was severely hoarding and causing damages )
He has the courage and confidence to ask if she can rent from us again.... lollll How do we kindly say "no way bud "

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Real Estate Broker · Cody, WY · Member since 2010 · 28k+ posts · 41k+ votes

Of course not. I had a tenant rent from me in January. She broke the lease after four months. We didn't lose anything because she left it clean and her deposit covered the unpaid rent until we found someone new. But she came back to me last month and asked to rent again because she has a better job and more stable income. I reminded her that she violated the contract and I don't want to rent to someone that doesn't fulfill their obligations. She can rent from someone else, build a good reputation, and then come back to me. She asked me four times, even offered to pay a double deposit and higher rent, but I still turned her down.

If they don't respect the lease the first time, they won't respect it the second time.

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James Galla
Attorney · Akron, OH · Member since 2016 · 535 posts · 389 votes
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@Charlie Moore

Hoarding? Oh no way. Just tell them no. Also take a minute to recognize that telling them no should be easy - the fact that you are stumbling on this may indicate your potential complacency with other units. So, you should reevaluate to see whether you are being too nice. This is business, not charity. If you finance your properties, the banks aren't going to be very charitable with you.
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Charlie Moore
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Rental Property Investor · D.C · Member since 2019 · 501 posts · 102 votes
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@James Galla
Agreed. This business is about making money. Nothing more, nothing less.
Is it discriminatory to say “ NO “ though?
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James Galla
Attorney · Akron, OH · Member since 2016 · 535 posts · 389 votes
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Originally posted by @Charlie Moore:
@James Galla
Agreed. This business is about making money. Nothing more, nothing less.
Is it discriminatory to say “ NO “ though?

I'd suggest a consult with a fair housing attorney to learn more about what discrimination is not permissible.
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Nathan GesnerBusiness Member
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Real Estate Broker · Cody, WY · Member since 2010 · 28k+ posts · 41k+ votes
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Of course not. I had a tenant rent from me in January. She broke the lease after four months. We didn't lose anything because she left it clean and her deposit covered the unpaid rent until we found someone new. But she came back to me last month and asked to rent again because she has a better job and more stable income. I reminded her that she violated the contract and I don't want to rent to someone that doesn't fulfill their obligations. She can rent from someone else, build a good reputation, and then come back to me. She asked me four times, even offered to pay a double deposit and higher rent, but I still turned her down.
If they don't respect the lease the first time, they won't respect it the second time.
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Jaron WallingPro Member
Rental Property Investor · Indianapolis, IN · Member since 2018 · 4k+ posts · 4k+ votes
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@Nathan Gesner 100% agree. Hopefully she learned something instead of being a dead-beat for the next landlord.
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Theresa HarrisPro Member
Member since 2019 · 15k+ posts · 11k+ votes
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@Charlie Moore You chose not to renew her lease for whatever reason, just tell her no. You are basing this off your experience with her much the same as you'd do if you got an unfavourable reference from another landlord.
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Joe SplitrockPro Member
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Rental Property Investor · Sioux Falls, SD · Member since 2015 · 9k+ posts · 18k+ votes
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Originally posted by @Charlie Moore:
Would you ever "Re-Rent" Your property to an unfavorable ex tenant?

Have a tenant from a few months ago ( did not renew her lease, because he was severely hoarding and causing damages )
He has the courage and confidence to ask if she can rent from us again.... lollll How do we kindly say "no way bud "
Having read lots of posts from you, you are never shy about saying direct or even offensive things. You have even talked about getting into arguments with tenants. I am not sure why you are all the sudden struggling?
Just say, "sorry we are unable to rent to you". If they want a reason, it is the same reason you didn't renew their lease (hoarding and damage). If they push after you give the reason, just state "the decision is final, there is no reason to waste our time discussing it." Just keep calmly repeating the same answer and they will go away after they realize your firm.
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Anthony Rosa
Rental Property Investor · New York City · Member since 2019 · 703 posts · 538 votes
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@Charlie Moore - I hope that's not your best option in the pool of applicants. I'm not an attorney but why would it be discriminatory to say No. Almost every landlord reviews the best candidate according to their application criteria. One item is checked off the list - No need to call their former landlord because that would be you.
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Jason Cacioppo
Real Estate Agent · Commerce CIty, CO · Member since 2018 · 127 posts · 78 votes
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Just politely say no thanks and you are considering other candidates. Your not legally wrong in any way.
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Jesse Stahl
Rental Property Investor · Member since 2019 · 25 posts · 21 votes
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You could always cite a bad reference from a previous landlord as your disqualification factor :)
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Sylvia B.
Rental Property Investor · Douglas County, MO · Member since 2014 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, . . .
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@Charlie Moore
No. Second chances are earned.
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Colleen F.Pro Member
Investor · Narragansett, RI · Member since 2013 · 8k+ posts · 4k+ votes
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Nope, just say no.
I had a tenant who had to leave one property because she had a fight with her female roommate and had a no contact order. Then I get a call that she was interested in renting another property with her BF who I had also rented the first house to, the previous year. They did not know I owned the second property so I just didn't call back when I found out it was her. I then get a call from her Mom getting aggressive. Just say no, people don't change that quickly.
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Brian Ploszay
Investor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2009 · 1k+ posts · 1k+ votes
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I wouldn't return their call. Once a tenant has left, and the transaction has ended, I tend not to communicate with them again. I am friendly, but not friends with any tenants.
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Cory Peters
Rental Property Investor · Charlotte, NC · Member since 2018 · 16 posts · 3 votes
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@Charlie Moore, it’s simple you just tell them no. You’re not their friend your a property owner. To be nice you could say, “ we are not accepting applications at this time”.
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Karen F.
Investor · San Diego, CA · Member since 2015 · 435 posts · 421 votes
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One time, as my husband, who is a very kind and nice man, was walking out of court from an eviction hearing (in which the eviction was approved), the tenant approached him and asked if she could rent from him again!
We have over 30 units in the same town. I save every tenant's phone number in my phone, with their unit and name. It's amazing how many times I've had an evicted tenant call about renting again from us. Of course I don't even answer their call.
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