

What do you consider a good cash flow deal?
What is a good cash flow deal? I was always taught that a good cash flow deal is when rents are 1% of purchase. In this article, rehab is already included in the purchase. So if the property rents for $1000, then you would be willing to pay $100,000 for that property. Would you be happy with that sort of cash flow. Let’s do some calculations. At 6% interest on a 30 year fixed, you are paying $600. Add $200 for tax and insurance and you cash flow $200, right? Well, what about property management of $100, and vacancy of 10% or $100. Now you are breaking even. And who thinks they will never have to spend a penny on maintenance? An investor could end up negative cash flow on a deal with these numbers. Then you are left to speculate for appreciation which is completely out of our control.
I believe a good cash flow deal is when rents are 1.5 - 3% of purchase. Or rents are double PITI. In the above scenario we are looking at $1500 - $3000 in rents. That is some great cash flow. Let’s look at another example of a great cash flow deal.
Duplex – two 2bed/1baths
- Purchase + Repairs - $50K
- Market Value - $80-100K
- Rent - $750/unit = $1500
- Payment at 6% 30yr fixed - $300
- Tax+Insurance - $100
- Property Management - $150
- Vacancy 10% - $150
- Maintenance 10% - $150
- Total Expenses - $850
- Positive Cash Flow - $650
At $650 positive cash flow per month, the next question is how many of these do you need to fire your boss? If you live frugally like me 3-4 would do the trick, but 10 or even 30 would be much better. I will discuss when it is time to fire your boss in a future post. Also, in one of my next articles, I will identify markets full of great cash flow properties just like these. You can check out more posts, Free articles, Guides and information at www.realreturnrealestate.com.
Comments (6)
Also with rising interst rates, not sure you'd even get 7 now?? I'm no expert, just my 2 cents. I'd love to hear any additional thoughts/comments. Am I way off base here or what?
Norm Chrostowski, over 16 years ago
In my neck of the woods you won't get $750 for a 2/1. Your probably looking at 450-500 at best. Also (I'm assuming) your talking about a NOO? Wouldn't the interets rate be more like 7% not 6? Putting the mortgage payment at about $333? As far as taxes and insurance. I keep my liability limits at 500k, just incase someone falls, gets hurt or whatever. Which puts my insurance premium around $450 on my duplex. My taxes are about $1300, when added comes to $145 month. I'm just commenting because those numbers look like what I would pay/get around where I live. Not being a smart a$$, but I'm not sure those numbers aren't sugar coated a bit?? I've looked a LOT for other properties where I live, and $650 ($325 a door) positive is almost unheard of. I'm sorry, but I have to agree with Steve... I'd LOVE to get my hands on a few of those. I look forward to your next post on where to identify these markets.
Norm Chrostowski, over 16 years ago
right now i expect at least $500 per door cash flow per month... i do the management and maintainance myself and that # doesnt include vacancy... simple math...just monthly income - expenses including mortgage, taxes, insurance, water & sewer my properties are all 3 unit buildings so i expect $1500 per property or i won't like the deal...thats just what i look for and how i analyze my particular market...rents and cash flow #'s differ from city to city and even from neighborhood to neighborhood... many many factors
Robert Granara, over 16 years ago
$325 cash flow per door is very good, especially by your numbers which include all the expenses.
Will Barnard, over 16 years ago
Thanks for the comment Steve. You can find REOs in the MidWest with similar numbers. This is one of the better examples but we have done a triplex in Cleveland, in 40K and now fully rented for $1450. Other duplex deals we are in $50-60K and rents are $1300. We stick to deals where cash flow is conservatively $400-500+ per month. OH, IN, KY, PA, MI and a lot of the MidWest.
Ryan Moeller, over 16 years ago
Where do you live that you could purchase a duplex for $50,000 including repairs? And then, rent for how much? $18,000 a year, or more than 1/3 the purchase price? Sorry, I've just never heard of such a deal.
Steve Crowley, over 16 years ago