But I definitely do not think a wholesaler is better at selling a property that is distressed.. there are some Dam good brokers that have good pipe lines to distressed real estate and like getting in with a great wholesaler who actually buys their inventory.. its a tough nut to crack but once you do..

I was sure you were going to say you had a couple of beavers run the spin cycle or something like that...

Here is county growth data: https://www.businessinsider.com/fastest-growing-and-shrinking-counties-in-america-2019-4Another look at census data: https://census.gov/content/dam/Census/library/visualizations/2019/comm/percent-pop-change-metro-micro.jpgPeople fleeing NY: https://www.newyorkupstate.com/western-ny/2019/04/census-new-yorkers-still-fleeing-state-population-decline-spreads-to-nyc-area.html43% of CA voters say they can't afford to live there: https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/08/43-percent-of-california-residents-say-they-cant-afford-to-live-there.htmlNext up, US population dispurses to Suburbs, rural areas and "middle of country" metros: https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-avenue/2018/03/26/us-population-disperses-to-suburbs-exurbs-rural-areas-and-middle-of-the-country-metros/Here is actual flow map of migration patterns in the US based on census: https://flowsmapper.geo.census.gov/map.htmlCheers! 

I learned a great appreciation for the value of having water and also a new concern for being prepared.I should mention a third situation when a dam broke and sent millions of gallons of water down through the Virgin River Gorge and damage to the overpasses of Interstate 15 were a distinct possibility.

Common sense be dam#ed.

The posts made by @Mark Kao and @Andrew Beaver are both important points.My idea would be to use the HELOC as a down payment with a Hard Money loan to purchase the MFR, then Refi after the set seasoning period.

I typically do not remove snow off of my flat roofs in the area, except on one property where the insulation is poor at the eaves and ice damming occurs along the gutters.  

This appears as though it could be a great turn out.I want to start planning December's meetup and I'm thinking about hosting it at Bahama Breeze in Troy off of Big Beaver rd, exit 69 on I-75.I'm thinking a Friday next time as well.Thoughts?

Date: December 10th, 2014Where: Champps in Troy 301 W Big Beaver Rd, Troy, MTime : 6:30pm to close

@Casey J Burkhead had posted in this thread too and he is near your neck of the woods in Beaver Falls.