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Posted over 7 years ago

Networking. Some Of You Are Doing It Incorrectly.

     I just got back from a networking event that I attend occasionally. (When I say “just” I mean an hour ago—this is a personal record for converting an experience to a blog entry.) This is a lunch meeting and, since I am a night person, mid-day meetings are not usually convenient for me. Also, this meeting usually falls on the same day as an evening investor meeting that I often attend and I am rarely inclined to attend two meetings in a single day. Still, these meetings are presented well so I like to stop by if there is a presenter I would like to meet, the topic resonates particularly well, I expect someone I would like to reconnect with will attend, or I have an urgent need for deals or have deals I think might be a good fit with this group. This particular time three of those conditions coincided: I knew another investor who is killing it and who I could see partnering with was attending, I hadn’t touched base with the sponsor (Keith Stonehouse at Franklin Title) in quite a while, and, though the topic was goal setting (many of you know I am not a goal type person—I prefer to position myself so as to free my time so I can better recognize and seize opportunities), the presenter was a local business coach whom I have heard good things about but had not met.

     The attendees are predominately Realtors and though I have a license and buy and sell real estate frequently (or assist other investors in those areas) this is not a group of people I generally find very useful to network with. Why? Many of them just don’t understand how to do it. This is being written between meetings on a busy day. The topic of the day was not to turn business away by stating how busy you are. Notice how I just violated that? Of course, it was on purpose. Yes, I get busy, but I am never too busy to follow up a promising lead. I know that often the fact that I am busy leads to more business in quick succession. That is great. I sarcastically call it my favorite problem but I hope everyone knows I never really think of it as a problem. Busy times are exhilarating times. I am never too busy to recruit a partner to help with a great deal I cannot do alone or to refer the deal to a partner who I know will be a good fit for the deal. Occasionally, I get paid for the referrals but not often. The people I refer deals to usually understand what I did and also make referrals to me. If they demonstrate they don’t understand...well I tend to make more referrals to those who understand.

      The inspiration for this blog was a Realtor who did not seem to grasp the concept of networking at all. Frankly, I am not sure why they bothered to attend. Before the presentation started there was an opportunity for the attendees to introduce themselves. I introduced myself as an investor, said that I also buy houses in need of repair (I introduced myself right after the other investor who attended), and specifically said that sometimes I will buy a house that is so bad that it needs to be knocked down—that I will buy it for the dirt). Later on a Realtor presented a listing for a vacant lot in an affluent suburban city. They were sitting directly across the table from me. I asked them the dimensions of the lot—they didn’t know. “Even an estimate?” They shrugged their shoulders. I asked for the address so I could look up the dimensions but the host had started speaking so I had to pause. At the first gap I tried to get the Realtor’s attention to follow up on the address—I wasn’t successful. I asked the question again but I don’t believe they heard me. I didn’t have the Realtor’s name and by that time I didn’t want it. I could easily find the name from the meeting notes but I am not going to bother. It is unlikely that they had a deal I could use (there is always a possibility though, right?) but even if they did it is unlikely that this person would be helpful in completing a transaction. I prefer working with investors and wholesalers—they understand what I am looking for and how to complete a deal. This was a person who had some dirt to sell. I had stated that I bought dirt. They did not seem to understand why I was interested in their lead. 

     Networking is powerful. Some of you are doing it incorrectly.



Comments (10)

  1. people are silly. Thats really all I gather when I network. 


    1. @Justin Stamper, try networking in a different room. I have found my best, smartest, and most fun partners through networking. As you point out, I have also identified plenty of people with whom I would not consider partnering.


  2. This is very true, networking does not come naturally to all.   

    I am curious and have a question.  I have a property that is likely a tear-down in a great location (zoned 2 unit in a bustling village district).  What is the best way for me to find dirt-buyers such as yourself in my area (near Portland Maine)?  This is my first sale and I am only really familiar with the traditional MLS/via a realtor type listing.   thanks in advance.


    1. @Hope Straw, thanks for stopping by. If you have a local REIA there may be buyers there. Otherwise, look for new construction projects in the area and call the builders. If they are not interested they might steer you toward someone who becomes your buyer.


      1. thanks for the response Jeff, good advice.


      2. @Hope Straw, when you sell the house/lot write it up on a forum or blog. Tell us how it happened. That is a type of story that is not told frequently here on BP. It could attract a lot (yes, I know) of interest.


  3. Thanks for sharing your observations, Jeff.  I often find the same thing. It didn't take me long to realize how rare 'we' are as creative problem-solving investors. What you found in your example is all too common. 

    I recently attended a networking club meeting.  The idea is sound - meet and do  business with other local business owners.  There are about 40 members and I was stoked to meet other entrepreneurs in the 'trenches' of business of all forms.  I went more as a consumer of skilled trades than a referral source, but was still excited to meet others I thought were cut from the same cloth.

    How disappointed I was to just find representatives from this financial firm or that mortgage or realtor brokerage.  Someone selling this supplement or that body cream.  I wanted business owners, not just people wanting to sell services for their firm or MLM.  

    I was disappointed at the lack of connections I made and the quality of the club pool, but that's ok. I just value more the ones I do truly connect with.  Thanks again for sharing.  It helps to know it even happens to stud investors like you!


    1. @Steve Vaughan, I must be doing something right if I am attracting comments from pros like you and @Tommy Desmond. Thanks for sharing your take on this and for your generous comments.


  4. I see that pretty often. Some of these business networking groups are so focused on the volume of handshakes, that they totally disregard the quality of the contact. Over the 15 years of attending various networking events, almost every single transaction that has resulted from them has been with people I developed more lasting relationships with. You can't get that from the "speed networking" model. 

    For the past several years, I've focused on leaving new networking events with one or two very solid new contacts, not fifteen people who are just a stack of cards I can't pair to a face. The quality of relationships is what's important to me now. 

    But, you already knew that!


    1. Yup, but I always appreciate your feedback. However, pairing faces to business cards for Realtors isn't usually that difficult--most of them still put their faces on their cards. It demonstrates they think it is all about them.