Additionally, stock market loses during the Great Recession are just paper losses unless you sold in the downturn, which a long term passive investor would not do (aside from tax-loss harvesting).If you want to compare apples to apples, how about comparing your business partner to the 10-year returns of "UPRO," a 4x leveraged S&P 500 ETF, which is up 1517% since 2008 (not including dividends) and is a totally passive investment.To be clear, I'm not trying to argue that stocks are better than real estate investing.

Werehouser   and Harvard and Hancock finance a bunch of it for the bigger operators.but I am talking about private holdings in the 500 to 2000 acre range.. strategically planted and harvested then replanted these are just like any other farm enough to live on that revenue alone.. unlike farming though.. you don't have to work the land.. you can pre commercial thin you can do a Little fertilizing but not necessary.. when you log you just hire a contract logger... some of the bigger mills will manage the sites if they get the wood.. but you don't get top dollar like if you hire your own loggers ..

After many years of court battles in 2012 the state allowed homeowners to harvest rainwater from their downspouts.

Enjoy the house,  give your kids a great experience with good schools and and a safe environment, they grow up, they go away, get married and leave you with a big house to sell and harvest the equity you built up, and then you move to Florida and wait to go meet God, while playing golf and hanging out on the beach.

From there I have the goal of purchasing 2 additional 50+ acres and harvesting the timber; by the end of the year.

The investment looks like:- a 4.5% cap rate (assuming 30 opex ratio) -that would be debt service coverage ratio constrained so likely 40% equity and 60% debt-low cash on cash rate initially (2% )- high rent growth 4%+ - high exit sale priceThe property won't cash flow significantly but the IRR much higher than the cap rate of 4.5%It's a low risk, moderate return investment.You're still making money but you need to be patient and need to wait to harvest value from the resale.

Compare that with these pink and purple haired punks just outta school who never even worked a day in their lives yet with their hands out wanting free money because they had it rough  . ( I sound like a crotchety old man don’t I lol )  

I have replanted thousands of acres of timber land we harvested.. you replant at 300 tree's to the acre with the hopes that you have a 20% survival rate.. like anything you can buy different sizes and quality of replant tree's we always chose the 3 and 1s  ..

I could paint it hot pink if I wanted.

This is a great read and one we will harvest information from to jump start our REI journey.If anyone is in the Southern California area and would like to connect, please shoot me a message.