I think Lakewood is the best market in Cleveland, but I am hearing people tell me to expect rents that seem impossible there.

You'll have to research market rent comps to UW the DSCR.

Not here to pitch—just trying to refine the concept with insights from the people who live and breathe CRE development.

Look at their marketing strategy.

Quote from @Paul Azad: Real Estate math is annoyingly confusing as syndicators like to use all sorts of different numbers from MOICs to IRRs to AAR-average annual returns to anything else they can come up with to beneficially inflate their numbers for marketing purposes and to avoid the only metric used when investing in all other asset classes, the CAGR- compound annual growth rate, but it's easy to convert, like pounds to kilograms.Here you have 100% in 5 years or 20% AAR, or 2.0 MOIC, you take the MOIC or add 100 to the total return 100%+100% = 200% = 2.0, then you do an exponential equation (x to the Y) with x=2.0 and Y= 1/time in years, so 2 to the 0.2 which is 14.87% that's your CAGR {calculator will have an x to the y button for ease, 2 x/y .2}for example, sp500 just returned 254% over last 10 years, so add 100 so MOIC = 3.54, then to the 0.1 for 1/10 years and CAGR is 13.47%now you can compare returns from syndications to buying VOO or QQQ etc We had a third party track record verification report done and the company who does these (do them alot for mutual funds etc) was asking some of the most basic questions that I thought were no brainers - so I asked - "what are the other ways to calculate these things"?

Tenant Default: 0-5% probability of eviction or early lease termination.Section 8: Class A rents are too high and won’t be approved.Vacancies: 5-10%, depending on market conditions.Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 3-5 years for positive cashflow, but you get highest relative rent & value appreciation.Class B Properties:Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores 620-680, some blemishes, no convictions/evictions in last 5 years.Tenant Default: 5-10% probability of eviction or early lease termination.Vacancies: 10-15%, depending on market conditions.Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 1-3 years for positive cashflow, balanced amounts of relative rent & value appreciation.Section 8: Class B rents are usually too high for the Section 8 program.Class C Properties:Tenant Pool: Majority of FICO scores 560-620, many blemishes, but should have no convictions/evictions in last 3 years.

I'm talking about our market in columbus not texas. our market was developed 1900 to 1940 and not only is it issues with the age and general updates but also layouts are obsolete. it's meant to be a discussion I just wanted to get a good chat going 

Evaluate the downside of both markets.  

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