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Tyrell Proby
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Tyrell Proby
  • Investor
  • Scottsdale, AZ
Posted Sep 19 2023, 19:05

Who are your favorite lenders and property managers in the Scottsdale area?? 

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Melanie Johnston
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Melanie Johnston
  • Real Estate Agent
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Replied Sep 19 2023, 20:55
Quote from @Tyrell Proby:

Who are your favorite lenders and property managers in the Scottsdale area?? 

For hard money, reach out to Ranette Oliver with BE Lending. I would share her contact info with you here, but it will get rejected by BP.


For a property manager, I recommend Barbara Habbeshaw with AZ Residential Management to my out-of-state buyers. They like the level of service she provides.

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Replied Sep 20 2023, 11:33

@Tyrell Proby

Encourage you to learn from the mistakes of others - by reading posts here on BiggerPockets about owners not having their expectations met by their current Property Management Company.

To avoid going through the same poor experience, keep reading.

Even if someone give you a referral, don’t make the mistake of assuming that PMC will meet your expectations, just because they met the expectations of the referral source.

We also can’t believe how many owners hire the first PMC they speak with!

Then they complain their expectations aren’t being met!

In our experience, the #1 mistake owners make when selecting a Property Management Company (PMC) is ASSUMING instead of CONFIRMING.

It's often a case of not doing enough research, as they don't know what they don't know!

Owners mistakenly ASSUME all PMCs offer the exact SAME SERVICES and PERFORM those services EXACTLY THE SAME WAY, so price is the only differentiator – and they often select the first PMC they call!

So, the first question they usually ask a PMC is about fees - instead of asking about services and HOW those services are executed.

EXAMPLE: PMC states they will handle tenant screening – what does that specifically mean? What documents do they require, what credit scores do they allow, how do they verify previous rental history, etc.? You’d be shocked by how little actual screening many PMC’s do!

This also leads owners to ASSUME simpler is better when it comes to management contracts.

The reality is the opposite - if it's not in writing then the PMC doesn't have to provide the service or can charge extra for it!

We have a 14-page management contract that we've added our real experiences to over the years, with the intent of protecting both us AND the landlord. Beyond the Monthly Management, Placement & Maintenance fees, all other fees in our contract are IF EVENT -> THEN fees.

We don’t know any PMCs to recommend in the area mentioned, but since selecting the wrong PMC is usually more harmful than selecting a bad tenant, you might want to read our series about “How to Screen a PMC Better than a Tenant”:

https://www.biggerpockets.com/member-blogs/3094/91877-how-to-screen-a-pmc-better-than-a-tenant-part-1-services-and-processes

We recommend you get management contracts from several PMCs and compare the services they cover and, more importantly, what they each DO NOT cover.

EDUCATE YOURSELF - yes, it will take time, but will lead to a selection that better meets your expectations & avoids potentially costly surprises!

P.S. If you just hire the cheapest or first PMC you speak with and it turns into a bad experience, please don’t assume ALL PMC’s are bad and start trashing PMC’s in general. Take ownership of your mistake and learn to do the proper due diligence recommended above😊

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Bob Stevens
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Bob Stevens
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Replied Sep 20 2023, 11:34
Quote from @Tyrell Proby:

Who are your favorite lenders and property managers in the Scottsdale area?? 


 What are the numbers ? 

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Sloane Kraftsow
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Sloane Kraftsow
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Replied Sep 20 2023, 12:20

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Mason Weiss#1 Multi-Family and Apartment Investing Contributor
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Mason Weiss#1 Multi-Family and Apartment Investing Contributor
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Replied Sep 20 2023, 13:01

Hey @Tyrell Proby, my brokerage offers discount full service PM services. If you are interested shoot me a PM and I can give you more info.