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All Forum Posts by: Aaron Wyssmann

Aaron Wyssmann has started 20 posts and replied 247 times.

Post: $1,000 gone missing...

Aaron WyssmannPosted
  • Springfield, MO
  • Posts 252
  • Votes 117

We definitely have tenants that don't have bank accounts and can not write a check, therefore we have to accept cash or possibly force only money orders. The issue here isn't that cash disappeared but a money order. The perfect scenario is not to take it and force another way but for us that just hasn't seemed very feasible for our tenants. 

@Randy E.

I completely agree with your statements. My boss has been in business for over 25 years and this is the first time anything like this has ever happened. It's like the perfect storm. 

Post: $1,000 gone missing...

Aaron WyssmannPosted
  • Springfield, MO
  • Posts 252
  • Votes 117

@Fred Heller

At this point we do still take payments in the office. Appfolio does allow for online payments and tenants can even take their cash into 7 Eleven but we don't have one here in our town. Our system is the best we have right now. 

Post: $1,000 gone missing...

Aaron WyssmannPosted
  • Springfield, MO
  • Posts 252
  • Votes 117

So here's the story of the missing $1000…

I work currently for a property management company and we have around 300 single family units.  You can imagine that the first of every month is crazy with people bringing in their rental payments and not only that but it means we have lots of cash, money orders, and checks in our office, not necessarily a good thing.

OUR PROCESS

1. The front desk person takes the money and counts it on the front counter right in front of the tenant so the amount is agreed upon.  He then writes a receipt and gives it to the tenant.

2.  He places the tender in an envelope and seals it.  On the front of the envelope he writes the tenant's name, what property address it was for, the date, the amount paid and signs his name as the one who accepted it.

3.  He then places that in a drawer that has a mail slot in it.  This drawer is locked and only two people in the office have the keys, the owner and the book keeper.

4.  The book keeper takes the money out and compares the amount of the tender to the amount written on the front of the envelope.  If they are the same amount he then enters it into our system and it is tracked from there (Appfolio is our rental management software).  He then shreds the envelope.

5.  The moneies are all compiled and a deposit is made.

WHAT HAPPENED?

In April a tenant came in to pay their rent.  She had received some extra money so she decided to pay for three months of rent ($650*3 months = $1950).  She paid $1950 that day ($1000 Money Order, $500 Money Order and $450 Cash) and she has a receipt from our office that shows that's what she paid and we have a copy in our receipt book.  Somehow what got entered into our system was simply the $500 money order and $450 cash = $950.

This month, June, is month three and she received a notice from our company that her whole rent was not paid in May and nothing in June, which of course is not correct.  

We have no idea what happened to the $1000 money order.  You might think, "Well obviously one of them must have stolen it."  The thing is that with the help of the tenant, we have tracked down the money order number that she received from Wal-Mart.  We then contacted Money Gram, the money order issuer, and that $1000 money order has never been processed on their end.  We can make a claim with Money Gram and it is possible that we can still get the $1000 but it will take 60 days before we will know for sure.

WHAT WENT WRONG?

1.  The front desk guy, by his own admission, says that sometimes when it is crazy up front he takes the tender and puts it in his top drawer to help the next tenant in line.  Could it have gotten in a file or fallen down somewhere?  We've turned the office upside down and no sign of it.  He obviously has been told to never do this again.  It goes directly into and envelope and into the drawer.

2.  Did the book keeper misread the amount as only $950 instead of $1950 and miss the other $1000 money order?  Could it have been accidentally shredded?

3. Some other plausible explanation?????

WHAT I WANT TO KNOW

How do you or your company handle taking tenant money?

What are the systems or processes that you use?

What improvements to our systems should we make?

Let me know your thoughts.

Post: Hotel Industry Expert in Springfield, Missouri

Aaron WyssmannPosted
  • Springfield, MO
  • Posts 252
  • Votes 117

William,

Awesome to see you out here learning and growing.  Very cool that you are working with the McQueary's on their new hotel, they've been personal friends since college and cool to see them to working hard to create a great venue downtown.  

You are correct that triplexes and fourplexes are tough to come by in our market.  It is though a great stable market that over the long run will provide nice returns.  

Soak in all that you can out here on BP.  I've not been around here too much lately due to working on a rehab but planning to spend some more time out here again.  Lots of great folks to learn from out here.

Post: GC in Springfield, MO

Aaron WyssmannPosted
  • Springfield, MO
  • Posts 252
  • Votes 117

Randy,

I've done construction in the area for the last 10 years or so.  I don't do that work any longer due to jumping into being a real estate agent now here in town but I've got some good contacts of people that might be able to help you out. I would need to know how big of a project you have and what type of work you need to get done.

Let me know if I can help in any way.

Take care,

Aaron

Post: How do you increase your belief?

Aaron WyssmannPosted
  • Springfield, MO
  • Posts 252
  • Votes 117

@Account Closed 

 You both have great perspectives, thanks.  I have definitely been blessed and I'll be the first to admit it.  I have found that my own head is what seems to get in the way the most :)

Post: How do you increase your belief?

Aaron WyssmannPosted
  • Springfield, MO
  • Posts 252
  • Votes 117

So what I'd love to know is how you increase your own belief in what you are capable of accomplishing.  As I look at those that are most successful in life…not just in terms of money but relationships, personal growth, and general trajectory of their life it seems that they have this unshakable belief that what they want to accomplish will happen.

If I'm being completely honest I seem to ride the waves of life…sometimes having absolute faith and then other times not having any at all. 

So here's some questions for you:

When you ride these same waves of life, how do you pull yourself out of the rut?

How do you expand what you believe you are capable of accomplishing?

Post: The Best Investment Idea

Aaron WyssmannPosted
  • Springfield, MO
  • Posts 252
  • Votes 117

@Kirk R. That's a great question and the answer is that I'd do exactly what I'm doing now. I love what I do and even if I didn't have to do it, I still would. 

I don't think I understand your question. Can you explain where you are finding these properties?  An example would be great. 

Post: Selling my llc property and purchase my primary home

Aaron WyssmannPosted
  • Springfield, MO
  • Posts 252
  • Votes 117

You would need to consult a CPA in your area to know for sure but i believe if you have any gain when you sell your interest in the property you will be taxed. The only way is if the same LLC would purchase a new property through a 1031 exchange.