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All Forum Posts by: Marc C.

Marc C. has started 60 posts and replied 400 times.

Post: New Mexico Real Estate Mastermind Group

Marc C.Posted
  • Buy-and-Hold Rental Investor
  • Santa Fe, NM
  • Posts 438
  • Votes 352

Are you located near Albuquerque or Santa Fe, New Mexico? Do you have at least one real estate "deal" (fix-and-flip or wholesale project or buy-and-hold investment) under your belt? If so, you're invited to attend the New Mexico Real Estate Mastermind Group. We meet on the 1st Saturday of each month at a different member's vacant fix-and-flip or buy-and-hold project.

The "fun" begins at 9:45am with networking with your fellow experienced investors, followed by introductions at 10:00. Then we'll have a short presentation by the host on the in's and out's of his current fix-and-flip project. Finally, we'll wrap with "Haves and Wants." We are usually done by 11:15 or so. There is NEVER a charge to attend, and we do not allow "pitching" of commercial products or services (this means you, too, Realtors!). (You can do all the one-on-one pitching you want during the networking portions of the meetings.) 

This month (January 2017), we are honored to have as our host Tim Z., who has done 3 fix-and-flips in 2016. He is just completing the third project, and we'll be meeting there to hear the story. (Hopefully, the heat is on!)

Those who attend at least one meeting are added to our active Facebook group. That's where we discuss issues and help each other between meetings. For example, today someone posted on our group about how they have immediate work for experienced contractors, but are having a hard time finding them. Another member posted that he has a rental for sale; it's rented for over 1% per month. See the Facebook group's admin, Jeremy, at the meeting to be added to the group.

RSVP and get the address here: https://www.meetup.com/New-Mexico-Real-Estate-Mast...

Hope to see you January 7, 2017!

Thanks,
Marc C., Partner
Multifamily Partners LLC
Multifamily News & Tips: www.PropertyTurnaround.com.

Post: Houston Meetup - December 13, 2016

Marc C.Posted
  • Buy-and-Hold Rental Investor
  • Santa Fe, NM
  • Posts 438
  • Votes 352

Why are Houston investors meeting in a little town in northern New Mexico? I would hate to drive 2 hours to the meeting, only to find out it's actually being held at the Black Labrador, 4100 Montrose Blvd, Houston, TX. 

Black Labrador

Post: New Mexico Real Estate Mastermind Meetup

Marc C.Posted
  • Buy-and-Hold Rental Investor
  • Santa Fe, NM
  • Posts 438
  • Votes 352

Hmmm....it says there is a $10 charge, and it won't let me change it. That is NOT true. All New Mexico Mastermind meetups are free, and we do not allow commercial pitching of services or products (except one-on-one in the networking portion). 

Post: New Mexico Real Estate Mastermind Meetup

Marc C.Posted
  • Buy-and-Hold Rental Investor
  • Santa Fe, NM
  • Posts 438
  • Votes 352

Hello, Investors!

Are you located near Albuquerque or Santa Fe, New Mexico? Do you have at least one real estate "deal" (fix-and-flip or wholesale project or buy-and-hold investment) under your belt? If so, you're invited to attend the New Mexico Real Estate Mastermind Group. We meet on the 1st Saturday of each month at a different member's vacant fix-and-flip or buy-and-hold project. 

The "fun" begins at 9:45am with networking with your fellow experienced investors, followed by introductions at 10:00. Then we'll have a short presentation by the host on the in's and out's of his current fix-and-flip project. Finally, we'll wrap with "Haves and Wants." We are usually done by 11:15 or so. This month, we are honored to have as our host Cameron K., who also hosted our second meeting last spring at his then-current project. He has another project underway, and we'll be meeting there to hear the story. (Hopefully, the heat is on!) 

Those who attend at least one meeting are added to our active Facebook group. That's where we discuss issues and help each other between meetings. For example, today someone posted on our group about how they have immediate work for experienced contractors, but are having a hard time finding them. Another member posted that he has a rental for sale; it's rented for over 1% per month. See the Facebook group's admin, Jeremy, at the meeting to be added to the group. 

RSVP and get the address here: https://www.meetup.com/New-Mexico-Real-Estate-Mastermind-Group/events/235537203/

Hope to see you tomorrow, or at our next meeting, January 7, 2017.

Thanks, 

Marc C., Partner
Multifamily Partners LLC
Multifamily News & Tips: www.PropertyTurnaround.com

Post: Denver Apartment Investors

Marc C.Posted
  • Buy-and-Hold Rental Investor
  • Santa Fe, NM
  • Posts 438
  • Votes 352

So, why Denver? I don't find pricing there realistic at all compared to other markets. It's in the same category as Seattle, Portland, and California...way to expensive for those of us who like cash flow. 

Are there actually any deals there? Not that there are deals on Loopnet, but I have a search called "Colorado Multifamily" that Loopnet emails me when there are new MF properties for sale in the state. This week, they sent an 8-plex for $1.2M. Me: "Ha, ha, ha. Good one, listing agent! You must be a real comedian. Hey, here's an idea: If it's so great, YOU buy it and tell us how it works out." (If only he or she was watching here.) 

Just kidding around, but seriously, 6% cap rates? In an era of rising interest rates? How does that work out 5 years from now? Honestly, who finds such deals compelling, other than institutional investors and foreigners? 

I spoke to a broker in Denver who claimed they mailed every MF owner in the state every other month, and alternated with calls to every MF owner on the other months. Try competing with that as a private investor doing direct mail. 

Look at markets that are an easy non-stop flight away: Albuquerque, Kansas City, Oklahoma City, some TX markets. (I am finding no deals in TX, by the way.) 

OK, enough dissing of your home market, but I would really like to understand the psychology of overpaying for multifamily, as I sure see a lot of it going on nationwide. Personally, I am hoping for an interest-rate increase and slowdown so we can get back to more traditional pricing. Might never happen though. 

Post: Help me figure out how to J-V this with the motivated seller...

Marc C.Posted
  • Buy-and-Hold Rental Investor
  • Santa Fe, NM
  • Posts 438
  • Votes 352

Post: Help me figure out how to J-V this with the motivated seller...

Marc C.Posted
  • Buy-and-Hold Rental Investor
  • Santa Fe, NM
  • Posts 438
  • Votes 352
Originally posted by @Michael Le:

Does the cash flow right now at least already cover his PITI?

It does, even at current occupancy levels. 

I'd be careful on relying too much on cash flow to do the rehab as that can be a death spiral if you don't get enough to rehab and then get more vacancy because of that.

Thanks. Good advice. 

Post: Help me figure out how to J-V this with the motivated seller...

Marc C.Posted
  • Buy-and-Hold Rental Investor
  • Santa Fe, NM
  • Posts 438
  • Votes 352

OK, an update to this story: The seller and I agreed today to a Master Lease-Option deal after all. $50K option consideration, plus rent consisting of the payments on his original $1.8M loan, taxes, and insurance. Close in 36 mos. or less for $2.35M. I'll invest about $250K in the property and see where that takes me. So I'll be in at $2.6M, let's say. Met with a leading property manager today to discuss strategy. We agreed there is probably about $600,000 in value to uncover during these next 3 years, particularly in better collections, controlling energy expenses, improving cosmetics, and rehabbing units on turnover. So net value increase of "only" around $300,000. But cash flow should be decent once stabilized; hoping to use some of that for the turnover rehabs. The important thing is: I will have a turnaround project under my belt, so the next deal should be a lot easier...as will raising funds to purchase this one in 3 years (I hope!)

I'm going to draw up the master lease and option docs, send them to his attorney, then send the revised version to my attorney. I expect a pretty complex process. But, within 60 days, I should have full control of the property for only $50,000 down. Then the hard part begins. Wish me luck. 

Post: Help me figure out how to J-V this with the motivated seller...

Marc C.Posted
  • Buy-and-Hold Rental Investor
  • Santa Fe, NM
  • Posts 438
  • Votes 352

Hey Gang,

Got five minutes to read a long post? I need some brainstorming from the crowd on a deal. I refuse to give up on it; I’m a motivated buyer, he’s a motivated seller. Here’s the story:

Subject property is a 63-unit built in 1972 in the Kansas City market. It's master-metered and mostly 1 BR's. Condition is C-. Owner lives in Georgia and visits by driving about quarterly. Except his health is failing and this is his only out-of-state property. It is very poorly run by his on-site property "manager," who I suspect is stealing from the seller. I would like to do about $300,000 in improvements over the next 3 years, starting with curb appeal and energy efficiency items, and updating units to modern B- grade as they turn over. I might implement RUBS, or I might just raise rents; most of my competition is not all-bills-paid, and some folks like not having to sign up for utilities. There appears to be tremendous upside in NOI.

The Seller's records are limited, but it appears he's got about a 75% collection/occupancy rate compared to his stated rent roll. THE PURCHASE PRICE IS THE SAME AS WHAT THE SELLER BOUGHT IT FOR IN 2005 ($2.2M.) That's about an 8 cap based on the previous 12 mos. NOI. The property also has some very obvious deferred maintenance that an appraiser is going to flag; I suspect someone would have to pay for repairs in order for it to qualify for financing, but I haven't had a lender drive by it.

Here’s the “rub,” so to speak: I only have about $300K I want to put into this, and the seller knows this. (And that will be pretty much the rest of my life savings, vs. my normal M.O. of putting about $50K into lots of different projects.) Now, the property should be able to fund a lot of the rehab of vacants on cash flow alone, so it’s not like I’ll be spending $300K in the next year. But certainly $100K in the next year to get the curb appeal up. I presently do not have the connections or track record to raise additional funds in a syndication, but I might have both by the time two years have passed operating this property, so I might be able to get some cash back from investors or through the proceeds of a refi.

I had proposed a Master Lease-Option, where I give him $50K and take over the property on a 3-year NNN lease. Rent would be equal to his PITI. He liked the idea until he showed my proposal to a new (to him) attorney, who crapped all over it. He is not happy that this would violate the lender's due on sale clause in the mortgage, but pretty much any transfer of any rights to the property would do that. (But how would they find out? We just notify them that a property management company will now be collecting rents and making the PITI payment to the mortgage company from the rents collected.)

So next I proposed a land trust, whereby he would seek permission from his lender to deed the property to a trustee. I would then (privately) buy his beneficial interest in the trust on payments. This is a better deal for him as it would include interest. There may need to be a master lease between the trust and my LLC as well. But, again, transferring an interest in the owner violates the due on sale clause of the mortgage, so the seller is (rightly) nervous.

So where does that leave us? Some sort of Joint-Venture deal whereby we work toward a common goal. I still take over the property and run it, but maybe we split the profits upon refi or sale? Who gets the cash flow in the meantime? What protects my interests in the improvements I make? Who gets the tax benefits, and how are they allocated?

I’ll be curious if anyone reads this far and will take a minute to give their two cents of knowledge and opinion. But thanks to all who do! 

Marc C. 

Post: Are the interest rate increases make you change your underwriting

Marc C.Posted
  • Buy-and-Hold Rental Investor
  • Santa Fe, NM
  • Posts 438
  • Votes 352

Residential interest rates have risen about .5% since the election. Now I've noticed they are up about .25% on commercial/apartment loans as well. http://www.crefcoa.com/apartment-rates-main.html

The strong stock market is attracting investors away from bonds, causing bond rates to rise to compensate. This will continue as long as stocks keep rising. 

Since these rates are based on 6-mo. LIBOR rates, http://www.wsj.com/mdc/public/page/2_3020-libor.ht..., which haven't risen much at all, I'm not sure why the increase in apartment financing rates. Anyone have a theory? 

So, investors, is this affecting your numbers, your analysis, your underwriting? 

It wouldn't take much more of a rise to cause some folks to want to back out of deals and for cap rates to widen. If you were buying a 7 cap with 4% money, will you be looking to retrade into a 7.5% cap if money rises to 4.5%? Seems logical.

It's making me nervous about the two deals I'm working. One is a Master Lease-Option with a 3-year time limit...who knows what rates might be in 3 years?