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All Forum Posts by: Adam Tafel

Adam Tafel has started 24 posts and replied 371 times.

Post: New member to bigger pockets

Adam Tafel
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • St. Paul, MN
  • Posts 386
  • Votes 303

Welcome to Minneapolis investment Lais!

We are hosting a house-hacking meetup at our office next week, shoot me a message for details! Great place to network and learn with other investors.

Post: Landlords: Describe your most problem-free tenant ever

Adam Tafel
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • St. Paul, MN
  • Posts 386
  • Votes 303

This thread is awesome, love the positivity! I rented a furnished apartment (Airbnb) to an older couple for 4 months. Not only did I cashflow $1200/mo on the single unit (yes!), they completely improved the entire space. Did some work on a leaking faucet, got rid of some old furniture and replaced it with new, made a ton of tasteful decorative updates to decor. They were friendly and helpful to my real estate business, great for networking, and obviously paid on-time. They were moving to Europe and selling most of their possessions. Knowing that I'm in the Airbnb business, they left me at least 25 towels, sheet sets, comforters, etc, all in perfect condition. Unbelievable ! 

Post: What Is The Best Way To Find Tenants?

Adam Tafel
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • St. Paul, MN
  • Posts 386
  • Votes 303

Certain people might not agree with this, but I like to start within my own sphere. I'm not looking to rent to friends or family, but if someone I trust can vouch for them I feel much better. I invest close to home, and have a pretty huge professional/social circle so it's easy. It might be rare that the perfect tenant will appear on the right month, but starting with a FB post from my personal page is typically my first move. 

Post: real estate investing / wholesaling (specifically in Minnesota)

Adam Tafel
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • St. Paul, MN
  • Posts 386
  • Votes 303

The market you live in is always the best place to start. A new wholesaler (or any other form of REI) is going to struggle a bit learning outside their own market. I invest in St. Paul because I know it like the back of my hand. I can see with my own eyes certain areas improving, demographics shifting, and speculate with confidence when it comes to value-adds. While I am no expert when it comes to wholesaling, I highly encourage keeping your first few deals close to home!

Post: Airbnb housekeeping systems, what works best?

Adam Tafel
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • St. Paul, MN
  • Posts 386
  • Votes 303

Background:

I've been hosting in St. Paul, MN since 2015. Current listings include two SFs, 4 apartments, and managing 4 properties for clients. I enjoy just about everything about the business, minus the scheduling/management of housekeepers.

Any other Airbnb/VRBO hosts out there? Looking for some tips. How do you:

-find consistent, quality cleaners

-keep costs down

-deal with scheduling issues

-coach cleaners to maintain your high standards

I've experimented with a variety of systems, thought I'd reach out and see what else is out there. Thanks! 

Post: another "poor millennial can't afford a house" article, critiqued

Adam Tafel
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • St. Paul, MN
  • Posts 386
  • Votes 303

@Joe Splitrock did you read the article? Nothing about it would offend anyone. The authors point was that millennial home-buyers have the odds stacked against them, to which I disagree. No one getting bashed here, just a difference of opinion.

Post: another "poor millennial can't afford a house" article, critiqued

Adam Tafel
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • St. Paul, MN
  • Posts 386
  • Votes 303

Article:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/your-parents-financial-advice-is-kind-of-wrong-11568367000?mod=e2fb&fbclid=IwAR2XL4axyaQpo43fAkn_Q_fWBU3GiHJ9_K6t5c8G6rMnPCfed1KBBXIVhTo

Response:

Let me set the scene to save you some time. Our subject is 32 years old, a regulatory attorney living in Seattle. She got her undergrad at University of Rochester, law degree at Syracuse, and is absolutely crippled and distraught over her remaining 140k in student loan debt. Home ownership is completely out of reach, she got bad advice from her parents regarding her education, and feels like a “moral failure when [she] can’t reach these milestones”. Ok. Deep breath. Lets break this down.

Our friend didn’t pick cheap schools. She probably spent about 50k/year for 7 years of education, that’s a nice price tag. She’s been making payments for “much of the last decade”, which has got to sting a bit. Who knows how much was financed, but if she’s got her principal down to 140k she’s made a serious dent. She claims to be living frugally (packs a lunch, doesn’t vacation, takes bus), and shares a modest apartment with her husband. If she makes 100k/year, contributing 4000/mo will pay off the balance in about 3 years. If she’s a working attorney with a 350k education and can’t set aside 52k/year, I am forced to call BS on her “frugal” lifestyle. Regardless of my optimism, I feel for her.

Well played so far, WSJ. We’ve cherry-picked someone with a ton of debt, living in one of the most competitive housing markets in the USA, mad at the world. Yes, it will be a few years before our friend owns a home. It’s a convenient case study to make a point: it’s so hard for us millennials to buy houses! Here we go...

Citing “Apartment List” as a source, Carpenter (author) claims that 2/3 of millennial renters need at least 20 years to save 20% on a median priced home. Excuse you? Let’s do some quick maths. 280k (median home price) x .2 / 20 years = $53.84 per week, not accounting for 20 years of interest/stock market gains. Ok, maybe avocado toast IS a relevant concern at this point? If you don’t have more than $200 extra at the end of the month, please don’t invest in real estate. It’s not for you, you’ll get burned. My point is that these ^ numbers are nonsensical.

Let’s address the boogyman of the article: 20% down payment. Are you scared? It’s referenced at least five times, which is weird, considering she represents the WSJ and the average down payment in the US is 6%. I was making a lousy 38k when I bought my first house with a credit score of 620, it cost me about 5k. Yes, I’m in St. Paul, not Seattle. I still only hear excuses.

She then tells a tale of her parents, living in the good old days of 1980, buying a starter home in Decatur, GA with 22k down (adjusted for inflation). According to RedFin: the average home price in Decatur is currently 223k. Her parents' house might (unlikely but perhaps) be attainable TODAY for a measly 8k with an FHA loan! Regardless of the actual numbers, I think millennial home ownership is probably alive and well in ol' Decatur, as starter-home barrier to entry is under 10k.

The Wall Street Journal writer then suggests that we "consider" a Roth IRA. How about if you do ANYTHING short of lighting your money on FIRE you will max out that Roth IRA, you will eat ramen every Thursday before payday to hit that max, no excuses, you spend more on ubers in a year than the 6k the government lets you invest tax free, are you hearing me?

My main gripe with this article is the order in which it’s structured. IF it began with showing readers the best grad school choices to see financial returns, cited the attorney as a cautionary tale of bad financial planning, and then used relevant data on down payment/mortgage qualification, rather than “I told my mom I might need 20% for a house and she just couldn’t literally even”, I would consider it an excellent read.

The article isn’t 100% bogus. She’s got tons of great data points on the discrepancies between current cost of living ratios and those of our parents, but who doesn’t already know this? Yes, the thesis is correct: we need to look at money through a different lens than our parents did. The trouble with these statistics is that people turn them into excuses. The author reminds us that the median home price in 1979 was 68k less than today. Ok, so an extra $300 on a mortgage payment… Airbnb didn’t exist in 1979, either.

She makes an argument for viewing education as a financial investment that must result in direct gains to the student, something our attorney friend may have forgotten. Some good advice is given, comparing expensive graduate programs to their cheaper online substitutes. I’m getting off track, please don’t take educational advice from the guy who dropped out of three (three?!) community colleges, I’m here to talk about real estate!

Alright, no more negativity. I am biased and also blessed. I enjoyed many debt-free years of work in my mid 20s (it’s hard to rack up student loan debt when you can’t even get into a real college) and was able to save. I worked as a server, lived in cheap apartments, and always had plenty of extra dough. I don’t have kids, or a disability, and my family is supportive. I don’t know the backstory of the author or her subject; I’m simply using their arguments to illustrate a point: it’s all about perspective.

I hang out with a lot of realtors/investors/entrepreneurs. We hear things differently, we have optimism. When we hear “the median home now sells for four times the median income”, we envision finding a free place to live for 4 years, saving every dime, and buying a home outright. Realistic? Maybe not for most people, but that’s not entirely the point. It’s a mindset adjustment that leads to building wealth.

I heard something great on the Biggerpockets podcast the other day: getting pre-approved for a home loan is like getting a checkup at the doctor. You don’t have to buy, but it’s nice to know your financial health. Yes, your credit score will drop 5 points for a few months, you’ll survive. There’s nothing wrong with renting, and it makes sense for many people. Just don’t let articles like this make the decision for you.

Julia Carpenter, if you’re reading this, let a realtor buy you coffee sometime. We’d love to help!

-Adam Tafel

Post: Lease + Cashflow w/ Airbnb

Adam Tafel
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • St. Paul, MN
  • Posts 386
  • Votes 303

Investment Info:

Large multi-family (5+ units) other investment in Saint Paul.

Cash invested: $10,000

I rent small 1-2 bedroom apartments in A neighborhoods throughout St. Paul. Acquired through networking, cold-calling, and referrals, I sign a standard residential lease with subletting permitted. Medium-term stays, my yearly average is 11 nights, median is 30.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Started by renting out a friends condo on Grand Ave for extra cash. I didn't know much about Airbnb or real estate at the time, just took some pictures and made the profile. Within a few hours a medical worker booked the place for triple her rent for 3 months! "Wow, I need more of these". So I got more of these.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

I now work pretty exclusively with a small circle of owners. A few years ago I was calling people and running all over town to make a deal, now I get to turn down business pretty frequently. I used to offer over asking price for a unit, I no longer feel the need to. I take better care of my apartments than the average tenant, and keep an eye on the property for the owner.

How did you finance this deal?

Its a pretty low-cost system. Each apartment takes about $1200 to furnish, $99 for pictures. After the initial startup cost its rent, electric (never heat), internet, and linen services.

What was the outcome?

I pay an average of $1100/mo for my apartments, and can usually net about 80%. Some months I'll sit back and collect the cash, some months I put in a fair amount of effort. Yearly average is probably around 4 hours per month per unit. Currently running four-1bdrms and one-2bdrm. At my max I had 10 separate units, and my life was a complete nightmare. Not worth it, at all.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

DIY is dead, outsource instead. For a few years I did everything myself. Laundry, cleaning, check-ins, everything. I made a decent amount of money, but I was running myself ragged. Whats the point of owning your own business if you do everything yourself for a modest amount of money? I would have been better off getting hired as a property manager, for similar pay and none of the liability. Over the years I've created systems that help my run the business from my phone and computer.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

My friends! You guys know who you are. I really couldn't have built this business without them. I won't name any names, as none of them are real estate professionals. I'll pay a friend $25/hour to do pretty much anything, and trust me, I have. Cleaning, moving, random jobs, you name it. These days I don't have to call in favors very often, but I've always got someone who's got my back. I try to pay it forward whenever possible, and I've bought a LOT of people dinner over the years.

Post: EZ West 7th House Hack

Adam Tafel
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • St. Paul, MN
  • Posts 386
  • Votes 303

Investment Info:

Single-family residence buy & hold investment in Saint Paul.

Purchase price: $230,000
Cash invested: $23,000

The idiot-proof "house hack", IF you'll let me get away with calling it that. 3 Bedroom 1.5 bath, 1886 build, in an up-and-coming part of St. Paul.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Found on the MLS. Turning point was during inspection, sewer-scope (always, always pay for these) revealed a sink-hole sewage system. Rather than pay for expensive steel pipes, the builder had opted to drill through the limestone bedrock, creating a pipeline to the city pipe. Over time these holes will expand into small caverns, and can eventually collapse. Got a major price reduction of $30,000, which was huge. "It could collapse tomorrow, or last another 500 years" -City Plumbing Inspector

How did you finance this deal?

Conventional 30/yr, 10% down.

How did you add value to the deal?

Turned a seemingly unusable loft area into a makeshift crash pad. I rent out the master on Airbnb and sleep in the "hobbit hole" for roughly half the year.

What was the outcome?

Cash-flowing and living for free! Two bedrooms are rented by friends, for $650/mo each. Master bedroom rents for $1200/mo on Airbnb, with roughly 50% vacancy. I live in an awesome house in a great part of town with two great guys, and make $500/month on top of everything. Win-win-win-win.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Be picky with the roommate selection process! We interviewed a TON of candidates before arriving on a decision, and got very lucky with a great housemate. Sure, living for free it awesome, but a bad roommate will make the financial savings fairly insignificant. ALWAYS check references and verify income, no matter what.

Post: Airbnb on the West Side Bluff

Adam Tafel
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  • Real Estate Agent
  • St. Paul, MN
  • Posts 386
  • Votes 303

Investment Info:

Single-family residence buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $135,000
Cash invested: $4,725

Airbnb cashflow monster! $2900/mo average gross monthly rent

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Got lucky with this one! Purchased in 2015 with an FHA loan, moved in for the first few years. I was having quite a bit of success running Airbnb properties for others, decided to move out and put the house to work. I had a family book right away for the entire summer, they paid $3500/mo. I couldn't believe it! I moved into a smaller apartment and started saving for my next purchase.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Again, this house was dumb luck. Found it on the MLS with my agent, it was the third home I'd ever been shown. I remember saying to my agent, "I've just started looking, I feel like I'm being impulsive". Great lesson in trusting my gut instinct.

What was the outcome?

Great cash-flowing vacation rental. Expenses are roughly $1500/mo, with an average of $2900/mo in gross income. The neighborhood has appreciated quite a bit since 2015, currently valued around $192,000. Currently sitting with $90,000 in equity, I'll hold this house until it quits performing.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Airbnb is all about hospitality. This property isn't the biggest, nicest, or best located choice in town. Going the extra mile for the guest goes a long way. I've installed extra handrails for older guests, built cribs for young families, bought video games for kids, things like that. Dealing with conflict from a place of compassion and helpfulness rather than getting defensive, that is number one! I still get some bad reviews from time to time, you can't please everyone all the time.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

My realtor was Adam Duckwall with BRIX Realty, and Charles Dailey from iLoan. I'd highly recommend using either of them for a purchase or sale.