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All Forum Posts by: Aj Green

Aj Green has started 4 posts and replied 15 times.

Post: Cancelling Home Purchase

Aj GreenPosted
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Quote from @Theresa Harris:

Was there a date by which the inspection had to be done by (normally within 2 weeks)?  Talk to the seller, but options are to cancel the sale (and risk losing your deposit), renegotiate to lower the price to allow you to fix the problems or ask them to fix it.  No house is going to be perfect and some things are an easy fix.  

What they are currently using the home for (renting by the room vs renting the entire house to one group) isn't your concern.


 No date, it was just this vague clause. I would for sure want to cancel the sale, my main concern would be them trying to force the sale oppose to not getting my $1k deposit back.

Post: Cancelling Home Purchase

Aj GreenPosted
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Quote from @Gregory Wilson:

The real issue is how much of a deposit do you have to try to get back from them.

Sure, your contingency might work but I assume you gave the deposit to the seller. Suppose they say "No, sue me." What are you gonna do then?

I know its mean to say that people who do their own contracts get what they deserve, but you must know that if you are paying a couple hundred thousand dollars for something it just might have been worth spending $600 on a lawyer to do a proper contract for you. Right?

I always am amazed when someone selling a $600,000 house brings me a listing agreement where they agreed to pay a stranger $30,000 to list their house for sale and they didn't even read the agreement much less spend the $250 to have a lawyer tell them that yes, if they sell it to their cousin during the listing period they still have to pay the $30k. Or, when the buyer sues everyone for undisclosed defects they have to pay the listing agent's attorneys fees, etc.


 A standard $1k deposit. The property price was only 100k so things were a lot more informal.

Post: Getting Your Foot In The Door

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Considering your situation, I would try to find deals on Facebook, saved zillow/realtor search notifications, etc. For the BRRR method, houses that just require lighter work and have working utilities can be low hanging fruit and competitive. You could do the BRRR method and the sneaky rental method (live in a house initially, then rent it out after, while light rehabbing.) Being owner occupied means getting the lowest interest rate, and a conventional or fha loan.

Multi family properties will cashflow the best (unless you are bold enough to rent by the room). In Cleveland you could also purchase a property in an area that is improving or on the border of one. Just make sure it is not deep in the ghetto, as there is a lot of bad areas in Cleveland. There's a lot of opportunities in your market.

Post: Cancelling Home Purchase (Buyer)

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Hey, would I be able to get out of a home purchase with this clause I put in? Their a/c starting leaking and has missing ductwork, and is blowing air in random places. The contract was a simple 3 page one and I wrote this in.


Also, it is a single family being rented as a rooming house (which is technically not legal here).

Post: Cancelling Home Purchase

Aj GreenPosted
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Hey, would I be able to get out of a home purchase with this clause I put in? Their a/c starting leaking and has missing ductwork, and is blowing air in random places. The contract was a simple 3 page one and I wrote this in.


Also, it is a single family being rented as a rooming house (which is technically not legal here).

Quote from @Tom S.:

@Aj Green  Did you sign and close it?

I was going to add, as posted above, it's a great rate and stick with that local credit union for the future business.  I did all of my loans with small local banks in my area and was always happy with the rates and service.


 I signed my purchase agreement, the rates came down today to 6.625 which I locked in for. I shopped all of my state's CU last time so I only called the top few this time around, it does seem like the best way to go about things. Many of the properties I have been looking at have issues but in this case I'm working with the seller to let me get it up to conventional appraisal standards before they inspect it. The hard money 10% plus additional thousands in closing costs was too much to swallow.

Quote from @Bryan Maddex:
Quote from @Aj Green:
Quote from @Bryan Maddex:

Any points on that loan quote? 

What loan size and loan to value?

Was that purchase money, rate and term refi, or cash out refi?

Is this a SFR or 2-4 unit?

Need so much more info to actually be able to shop rates  :) 


No points, 110k, SFR, regular purchase financing, the house is worth around 140k. No agents involved. My credit should be the highest allowable also and I shouldn't have problems with approval.

Ok, i shopped about 80 lenders (based on Fridays rates, market is closed so no live pricing)
Conventional Full Doc loan you would be at 7.875% if you put 20% down (you said what the house was worth, but not your purchase price). 

If you did DSCR, 20% down I have a Par rate at 6.375% so you pay broker fee but no points. Broker fee on that loan size is usually 2.5-3 points. You can go up to 6.75% and get 1 point credit towards the broker fee. 

Several ways to skin that cat  ;)    

With the DSCR lender, you could close directly in your LLC and it would not report to credit. So never "better or worse" from your Credit union, just different. The better option would be depending on your priorities. The DSCR world gives us a lot of flexibility.  
Hey, the house would be worth 140k and I would pay 110k. The 6.75 rate is a conventional 30 year w low closing fees (the credit union I used last time). Dscr will be useful in the future for fixer uppers and unique buys.
Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@Aj Green

i have questions for you. how many lenders have you talked to?  can anyone you know in person vouch for this lender?  have you met anyone there in person?  are they asking for up front fees?  are you closing with a title company?  is the title company in touch with the lender?  do they have any concerns?

there's no way anyone on BP can you tell you anything about this with the information you posted... how could we vouch for them?

and finally - i know this wasn't your question but i have to ask. you said "rent covers mortgage." you need it to be significantly higher than the mortgage to cover all the expenses you are going to incur.

hope this helps...


 Hey, I went down my usual list (all local credit unions) that had the best rates 6 months ago, this one was the best one that I used for my last mortgage. 

The lender is legitimate, they are the local credit union and I have a bank w them. I learned about the 75% rule from BP! Midwest properties are easy to find that do that thankfully.

This post was more about if there were other lenders with better local rates, rather than if I should go with this one. Last time when I called everyone I ended up with them.

Quote from @Patrick Roberts:
Quote from @Brandon Croucier:

That’s a killer loan if they are actually offering that.

Seems extremely below market value as even primary mortgages are higher than this right now.

I would beware of a bait & switch on this.


 lol right? especially since he's closing today on a fed reserve holiday...but hey, "the other guy's offering a better rate.."


 I'm closing with an off market property, a lot less hurdles than the last forclosure I bought with the bank haha. 

Quote from @Brandon Croucier:

That’s a killer loan if they are actually offering that.

Seems extremely below market value as even primary mortgages are higher than this right now.

I would beware of a bait & switch on this.


It's trustable, a local credit union that I used for my last mortgage. Part of the difference apparently is in them keeping the loan insted of selling it.