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All Forum Posts by: Akash Sky

Akash Sky has started 8 posts and replied 39 times.

Let me preface this by saying one thing: I don't want to get a million dollar loan right now, but I do want to get a million dollar loan the next time the real estate market corrects itself.

That being said, I've decided that when the housing market goes down, I want to invest a million dollars into a commercial real estate property.

I know that right now, there is no way any bank would loan me a million dollars, but what are some of the things that I can do right now to increase my capacity for debt?

Some things I'd like some insight on: importance of credit score, what experience I'll need, type of lenders I should approach, down-payment I should have ready, things I can do to appear less risky to banks, etc.

Originally posted by @Stephanie Medellin:

@Akash Sky Great question, and the answer is a bit surprising. Regardless of whether you put more down on FHA, you will still have mortgage insurance. If you put more than 10% down, your minimum term of having mortgage insurance on the loan is 11 years. Meaning you cannot get rid of the mortgage insurance for 11 years. Even if you put 20% down, you still have mortgage insurance for a minimum of 11 years. So, why would someone get an FHA loan if they have this much to put down? They might have a lower FICO score than needed to qualify for conventional, or had a more recent short sale or foreclosure (FHA has a shorter waiting period), or have some other situation that conventional loans would not allow.

With Home Possible, yes,  you would avoid the mortgage insurance by putting 20% down.  If you do have that much of a down payment, you wouldn't necessarily need that program.

As for which is best, it all depends on your credit history, savings, etc.  1.5% might not seem like that much of a different but when you get into the higher purchase prices, $600,000 or so, 1.5% is $9000.00.   

 In my case, would you recommend simply going with conventional financing if I have enough capital for a solid down-payment and a decent FICO score (720-740)?  Are there better options?

Originally posted by @Stephanie Medellin:

@Akash Sky Yes, FHA loans generally have lower interest rates but if you put the minimum down of 3.5%, you'll also have mortgage insurance on top of that for the life of the loan, so it's a good idea to compare each type of loan based on your credit. FHA is great if you have less than perfect credit, higher debt to income ratios, and need a very low down payment.

There is a program through Freddie Mac called Home Possible that will allow 5% down on 2-4 units with a conventional loan.  There are income restrictions unless you're in certain areas, but this is another great option for low down payment financing for either first time buyers or anyone that doesn't own any other property.  Conventional loans require better credit history, and will also have mortgage insurance with less than 20% down.

Is it possible to get an FHA loan and put down 20% to avoid PMI and get a good interest rate? (What about the home possible program?) Basically I want to acquire financing at favorable terms to minimize both my down-payment and monthly mortgage payment.

What kind of financing would best match that situation?  Also thank you so much for answering my questions!  I really appreciate it!

Originally posted by @Stephanie Medellin:

@Akash Sky  Do you own your own home yet?  Or will a multifamily that you'll also live in be your first investment?  Honestly if you're just getting started I would focus on qualifying for that first loan.  I'd be happy to go over your options with you, based on your specific situation.  

Portfolio lenders are generally good when you can't qualify for conventional or FHA for one reason or another. The rates are generally a bit higher and down payment requirements are the same or higher. Most people want the best possible loan they can get. Just because you do one loan with a lender does not guarantee they will lend to you in the future if you don't meet their guidelines.

I'm just getting started with a multifamily that I'll live in. I'm thinking about going with conventional, although I heard FHA has better interest rates because its subsidized or something.

Originally posted by @Stephanie Medellin:
Originally posted by @Akash Sky:

Hello BP!

I recently met with a local real estate investor and learned about the importance of forming relationships with banks.  I'm wondering if people could tell me about how they finance their deals and who they use as their lender.

 Hi Akash,

There are numerous options for portfolio programs but the main requirement is equity, or large down payment, not a relationship with the lender.  Yes maybe after you've done a few loans with them they can be more favorable toward your deals but they will generally still need to meet guidelines.

What is it specifically that you need a portfolio lender for that can't be done conventionally?  That would help determine whether a program is available for what you want.

For example are you self employed and write off too much income?  Do you want to borrow strictly based on the income of the property?

 I met with a local real estate investor and he recommended going with a portfolio lender for my first deal because if I plan on doing subsequent deals, the past history from the first deal would prove valuable.  

Basically, I wanted to see if there was portfolio lender that also does traditional loans, (as I think that I'll want to start at regular residential and move towards a portfolio loan later on).

Hello BP!

I recently met with a local real estate investor and learned about the importance of forming relationships with banks.  I'm wondering if people could tell me about how they finance their deals and who they use as their lender.

Post: A 4-Plex deal in orange county

Akash SkyPosted
  • Burbank, CA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Zak Parks:

Akash Sky not a great deal by the rest of the countries standards at less than 10% cash on cash return. Most people want to see at least 15-20%, but I know that's harder in Cali. Also I'd double check all the numbers on that property. Unless I'm missing something, the cap rate is blatantly wrong which would make me think there's more errors(embellishments). Cap rate is NOI/purchase price. 43200/605000= 7.14% cap. Cap rates are by area though you'd need to be asking how good the deal is in your area. I wouldn't go for that deal on the east coast if that's worth anything.

Thanks for your insight Zak. I think they accidentally calculated the CAP rate using the total income, 48K / 605K is about 7.9%. This is the best deal I've seen in OC in the last 2 months, and I'm glad to learn it isn't as hot as I thought it was. (I thought I was missing out :p). Also, is 10% cash on cash a golden standard of some sort?

Originally posted by @Wei Xie:

Akash Sky I share Zak Parks 's concern. In addition the NOI/gross seems to high. Rule of thumb is around 0.5. I would suspect hidden expenses, particularly as the house is quite old.

Can you explain "the rule of thumb" being around 0.5?  I don't follow.  Also, what hidden expenses would there be with a house that's old?  How many years of age makes a house "old"?

Post: A 4-Plex deal in orange county

Akash SkyPosted
  • Burbank, CA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 3

I've been on the lookout for real estate deals lately, (more so to get to know the market, as I realistically will not have enough capital to purchase a property until a year or so).  I recently saw this deal online and I want to know what you guys think about it.  It's currently off market.  To me, it looked like a solid deal for a 4 plex, but I would like to know exactly how good or bad of a deal it is.  Here's the stats:

So I guess here's my question, on a percentile range of all deals, where do you think it falls?  I.E. is this deal better than 90% of all other multi family deals?  (I know that there are other variables at play here, but assume that there are no other hidden deal breakers).

Post: Direct Lender and Mortgage broker

Akash SkyPosted
  • Burbank, CA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Chris Mason:

Hi @Akash Sky,

If brokering or direct lending was always better, the other would have been put out of business decades ago. I do both. And I correspondent lend, just to throw a 3rd term into the mix. It's really scenario dependent. Don't get caught up in the buzz words and sales pitches. 

 That makes a lot of sense Chris!  Can you elaborate on how they are scenario dependent by giving examples of which would be better when?  (Also can you explain to me what correspondent lend is?)

Post: Direct Lender and Mortgage broker

Akash SkyPosted
  • Burbank, CA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Direct lenders lend their own money, their name will show on the note and deed of trust.  Mortgage Brokers lend other peoples money, that other person/company will show on the note and deed of trust.

I wouldn't assume a mortgage broker is more expensive.  You pay the commission either way, in the case of a Direct Lender it goes to the Direct Lender, in the case of a Mortgage Broker it goes to the Mortgage Broker.

If you are dealing with a broker, in addition to there being a disclosure to that effect, you will generally be offered loans from more than one source.

 In the case of the mortgage broker you pay fee's to both the broker and the lender, (unless I am terribly mistaken).  I figure 1 commission would be cheaper than 2, but maybe the commission is less with broker (not really sure).  

Is disclosure required by law?