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All Forum Posts by: Aldo Fazio

Aldo Fazio has started 1 posts and replied 14 times.

Post: Analysis Paralysis or just haven't found a working deal?

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Quote from @Brock Mogensen:

Turn key investments are tough to make sense of right now. Value-add is almost required if you're looking for a 10%+ return on investment. That being said, you aren't the only one. Looking at 100+ deals to find one that makes sense is the norm right now. 


 Thanks Brock! I'll keep my head up and be patient. There have been many helpful responses on this thread! 

Post: Analysis Paralysis or just haven't found a working deal?

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Julien, this is great and puts things into perspective. I would say that I am experiencing some or all of the the reasons you described. I was just think that I need to make a deal already so I can stop thinking about it. Then I think to myself, don't be hasty and make a bad move! What you posted above is so well written, it's like it's taken from a book (maybe it is)! I appreciate the time you took to post this, it's very helpful!

Post: Analysis Paralysis or just haven't found a working deal?

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Quote from @Henry Clark:

Another finance angle.  Do you own your home?  Sell it. Tax free up to $500k capital gain if married.  Use that money to live in a property like noted above.  Have your home earn money for you.  

House hack the hotel. Change up the product mix. Overnight. STR mtr. LTR. Rent out the bar and restaurant. Put some rv parking spots and campsites in. Go for a mixed product offering.


 Henry, you have some great and creative ideas, no doubt. You're obviously successful and experienced. My situation is not so flexible though. I have a wife, 3 young kids, and a lot of construction work for amazing clients. I'm not looking for something so extensive or active at this time. I just want to keep trucking with my business and do something smart with my capital! I understand that more passive and less risk = less reward. But selling my house and living in a hotel doesn't sound like a good idea at this time. Plus that property is guaranteed to flood at least once every decade or more! It's one of the first zones to go under at minimum flood stage! It's just too risky for where I'm at in life!

That said, I do love your comments and willingness to help me think outside the box!

Post: Analysis Paralysis or just haven't found a working deal?

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Quote from @Timothy Howdeshell:

Hey @Aldo Fazio

there's lots of great things in this thread and I feel like I'm uniquely qualified to speak on them. I'm an investor that lives in Fresno California and also invest in Kansas City and have for the last several years.

in regards to holding your cash in a money market at 1.5% I would definitely get that moved over to a high-yield savings account. I understand there may be some nervousness around the fact that they're entirely online but there are legitimate Banks that offer great interest rates. Ally Bank is one such Bank. I use synchrony Bank myself. But there are many. This money stays liquid and is paying around 5% interest right now.

in regards to finding a deal if you want to stay with on market or listed properties I think that the answer as usual is to develop relationships. I do see a lot of good deals that come through from bank owned properties currently so reach out and try to find out who the realtor is that lists the bank owned properties. You can also speak to each Bank individually but that's going to take considerably more time. The other way to find good deals is to get on all of the wholesaler lists. If you go into the Facebook groups for Kansas City real estate investing you'll quickly find a lot of them. Also if you do a Google search for sell my house fast Kansas City and go through the top 30 websites putting your information in to their investor portion. Be careful not to put your info into the main site as they'll think that you want to sell to my house but they usually have spots where investors can put their information in to buy properties.

I would caution against buying anything in Kansas City for less than $100,000 with cash this won't leave you any money to do renovations and sub $100,000 properties are not in good areas. You used to be able to find these four to five years ago but the market has taken off. Now I wouldn't be looking at anything with an arv of less than 150 k. Even then cash flows are going to be tight to non-existent. The best I think you can hope for right now is to find a property where you break even after capex maintenance and vacancy reserves. The play would be to refinance in a couple of years once rates decrease to get your cash flow at that time. This isn't a great use of capital when you can get a 5% risk-free return. But if you believe that rates will decrease and that home values will stay flat until then you should expect property values to increase once rates decrease. By buying now you're locking in a lower property value than the expected higher One later. The other way to do this is to buy an already discounted property that needs renovations and given your skill set this seems like an easy entry point. You will likely still not have cash flow after the refinance but you will have built-in equity. So perhaps you can walk away from the renovation with 40K in equity and a property that breaks even which is still a win in today's market.

if you have more specific questions or need help feel free to reach out!

 Thanks Timothy,

I appreciate all the solid advice your post. I feel better about the online high yield accounts. I'll look at them more seriously now! Basically, everything you said is very helpful, and I may just reach out to you in the future!

Post: First timer looking for turnkey in KCMO

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Great thread Joe! I'm in the same boat! I have family in KC and selected that as my entry market. I'm also looking for turn-key till I get a chance to get over there an put some sweat equity in to LTRs and flips.

Best of luck!

Post: Analysis Paralysis or just haven't found a working deal?

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Quote from @Timothy Howdeshell:

Hey @Aldo Fazio

there's lots of great things in this thread and I feel like I'm uniquely qualified to speak on them. I'm an investor that lives in Fresno California and also invest in Kansas City and have for the last several years.

in regards to holding your cash in a money market at 1.5% I would definitely get that moved over to a high-yield savings account. I understand there may be some nervousness around the fact that they're entirely online but there are legitimate Banks that offer great interest rates. Ally Bank is one such Bank. I use synchrony Bank myself. But there are many. This money stays liquid and is paying around 5% interest right now.

in regards to finding a deal if you want to stay with on market or listed properties I think that the answer as usual is to develop relationships. I do see a lot of good deals that come through from bank owned properties currently so reach out and try to find out who the realtor is that lists the bank owned properties. You can also speak to each Bank individually but that's going to take considerably more time. The other way to find good deals is to get on all of the wholesaler lists. If you go into the Facebook groups for Kansas City real estate investing you'll quickly find a lot of them. Also if you do a Google search for sell my house fast Kansas City and go through the top 30 websites putting your information in to their investor portion. Be careful not to put your info into the main site as they'll think that you want to sell to my house but they usually have spots where investors can put their information in to buy properties.

I would caution against buying anything in Kansas City for less than $100,000 with cash this won't leave you any money to do renovations and sub $100,000 properties are not in good areas. You used to be able to find these four to five years ago but the market has taken off. Now I wouldn't be looking at anything with an arv of less than 150 k. Even then cash flows are going to be tight to non-existent. The best I think you can hope for right now is to find a property where you break even after capex maintenance and vacancy reserves. The play would be to refinance in a couple of years once rates decrease to get your cash flow at that time. This isn't a great use of capital when you can get a 5% risk-free return. But if you believe that rates will decrease and that home values will stay flat until then you should expect property values to increase once rates decrease. By buying now you're locking in a lower property value than the expected higher One later. The other way to do this is to buy an already discounted property that needs renovations and given your skill set this seems like an easy entry point. You will likely still not have cash flow after the refinance but you will have built-in equity. So perhaps you can walk away from the renovation with 40K in equity and a property that breaks even which is still a win in today's market.

if you have more specific questions or need help feel free to reach out!


 Thanks Timothy,

I appreciate all the solid advice your post. I feel better about the online high yield accounts. I'll look at them more seriously now! Basically, everything you said is very helpful, and I may just reach out to you in the future!

Post: Analysis Paralysis or just haven't found a working deal?

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Quote from @Jeremy Dowdall:

"I would love, love, love to find a property that I can work on myself. It's the only kind of experience I have in real estate, but Nor Cal and Cali in general is still out of reach for me.."

This is what jumps out the most when I read the thread, and I wonder two things:

1. have you tried to find a partner where your are, and JV a deal together? Seems there are lots of people trying to find a good GC. One that has some capital to invest could be a real find for someone.

2. why aren't you moving to KC? Not permanently, and not your whole family, but why not get enough of a landing spot to be there for a build out? Maybe you could even crash with one of those industry contacts you've been making.


Hi Jeremy,

Thanks for your response!

A local partner here in Nor Cal would be a good idea for sure. Most of my clients are investors, and I've been considering this with one client in particular. However, they have me working on two of their houses already! Big projects too! A JV with them could be good for us all, but they're already supporting me in ways that were unimaginable a year or two ago. And we're all busy with these projects plus they have good full time jobs. I think that this idea has potential though, if not with this particular client, then maybe another.

 I'm certainly considering a move to KC, but not for a couple years. As mentioned above, I have the best jobs that a guy like me could ask for! probably 1 to 2 years of great work in the pipeline. If I left now, even for a short period of time, I wouldn't be able to handle my workload efficiently. Hence, I'm trying to find a property that's mostly turn key or just needs cosmetic fixes. My mother-in-law lives in the KC area, so a place to crash wouldn't be a problem. 

My goal is to hold my money in rentals till it makes sense for us to move, or till I have time to do what you suggested in your 2nd bullet point. But of course, these should be rentals that don't require too much of my time. 

Now, based on your first suggestion, I think it would be a good idea for me to find a trusty contractor in KC, since most of the properties that make sense financially need work. Then I could be the capital guy, and have solid boots on the ground where I invest. It would take less time to vet contractor than to do the work myself. Hopefully the trade-off would be worth it!

I really appreciate your comments, and all the others on this thread. They've been getting me to think about my situation more deeply and creatively. 
 

Post: Analysis Paralysis or just haven't found a working deal?

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Quote from @Henry Clark:

What I’m talking about is your funds would be tied up by the lender holding your loan. This is to get a lower interest.  But versus paying Dow you would

Be receiving interest.  

Unless you have a national bank your going to want a

Local bank.  I would

Reach out to all of the bankers in the area you’re interested who handle distressed properties.  Also reach out to their trust departments. Get in their buyers list and develop a

Rapport. 


 Thanks again, Henry. I haven't considered this approach yet. I'll talk with my local credit union this week and ask about the distressed properties, as well as other banks. It could be a good lead on local opportunities. 

Post: Analysis Paralysis or just haven't found a working deal?

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How many offers have you made based on your numbers?  Not the asking price?  

Versus putting money into the deal have you looked at putting money into a cd or mm with the bank loaning the money to get a reduced interest rate?  Plus you earn. 

Since you're a GC versus looking for a nice 3/2 have you looked for a 2/1 that you can ADU to a 3/2 easily. Or subdivide a lot?

Basically what “angles” have you looked at?  


 Hi Henry and thanks for your response.

I've only made one offer based on my numbers, and I was accepted. The offer was 114,000 and the current tenants (of 13 years) were paying 1,350. It seemed great but there was a big red flag that my realtor and I missed. The house was only showing to an accepted offer. So, upon inspection, the house ended being a neglected lemon and the tenants were hoarders. As Kevin mentioned above, I probably could have renegotiated and dealt with the problems, but it seemed like way too much for me to do from out of state with so much construction work on plate already.

All my investing capital is in a money market account at 1.5%, but it's totally liquid. I've considered an online high interest savings account (5%), but I've never had an online only bank account, so I'm a bit nervous. It's probably no big deal though. My credit union offers CDs at 4.5% to 5%, but they have terms of 6 or 12 months and so on. I'm trying to keep my funds liquid in case I find a property or 2 or 3 to buy! Honestly, I'm having all kinds of ideas, but I don't have enough experience to know what to do. I've never had savings like i do now, and I want to do something smart with it.

I would love, love, love to find a property that I can work on myself. It's the only kind of experience I have in real estate, but Nor Cal and Cali in general is still out of reach for me.. 

I suppose I can put half of my capital in a 6 or 12 month CD to gain interest while keeping some available just in case. Or I can just pull the trigger on an online high interest savings account..

Any thoughts now that I've explained a little more? I'm all ears!

Post: Analysis Paralysis or just haven't found a working deal?

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Hi Kevin Sobilo!

Thanks for your response! I agree with what you're saying. I chose my target property based on finding good tenants and a quality home. Cashflow is important, of course, because I need the rent to cover the expenses. My solution was to utilize a larger downpayment to force cashflow. I figured this would also keep me from going under water if we get a market correction. That's my logic anyway, and it's just in theory so far.

Ideally, I would find a fixer! I'm a general contractor after all, and I have the skills and tools necessary to build an entire house. My issue is, I'd like to do the work myself, but Northern California is impossible for a small fish like me, even though I have a large cash savings and a great HELOC. Homes and expenses are just too high around here if you're not already a millionaire. Hence, I've been looking at turn-key and out-of-state deals.

Still, buying a fixer out-of-state isn't impossible, and is a very practical response. I'll just have to keep researching and networking. I'll have to get over my issues and just find a good and fair contractor in whatever market I choose.

Also, I'm nervous about getting a total lemon or getting bad tenants because I'm out of state and can't personally check out every property.

I will put more consideration in small multi-family, as you suggested. It's more bang for your buck and more potential for cashflow.


Thanks again! You've given me a lot to consider..