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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 2 posts and replied 59 times.

Post: 180 units in 12 months!

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Originally posted by @Luisa Londono:

@Amanda Barker

Your journey inspire me and give me motivation,

Thank you and Congratulations to you guys!

Actually me and my husband have some properties here in Tampa and surrounding areas. He owns a property management company and I'm Realtor. We also are working hard to get that dream. We are definitely interested, let us know⭐

Luisa Londono

I'd love that Luisa! I'll PM you!

Post: 180 units in 12 months!

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Originally posted by @Alex Ramirez:

@Amanda Barker very inspiring story. I have a similar story. This is technically my first year of committing to RE investing and to date I have been able to put 21 units under my portfolio plus a short term rental. I was also a GP on a 88 unit and an LP on a 7 unit. I’m trying to close something else before the end of the year. Next year I have way bigger goals. I’m very curious about your mastermind group if you could share the info I will truly appreciate it.

 Hey Alex - I'll PM you!

Post: 180 units in 12 months!

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Just my layman opinions. Obviously, we always want to get properties with the highest cashflow per door, but what I am always interested in is what  can I personally do with a property that is not cashflowing if I purchase the property. I think the huge difference when looking for properties to purchase is the investor's abilities to change and improve the cashflow.

While you are correct in regards to purchasing less units if the overall cashflow is better, there is a downside to that thinking when you consider the years following the purchase of the property. If you chose 10 units because the cashflow was better at the time of purchase you need to do serious math to determine whether or not the 20 units with the lower cashflow would have beat out your 10 units big time in 1, 2, 5 or more years.

As for going from Rockstar to bad times, I personally never met a multi-unit investor who lost money back in the 2008 crisis nor any other downturn. The only people I know who lost money were single family owners. In fact, during the 2008 crisis the vacancy rate for our rental units turned into a 3-month waiting list due to all the people walking away from their mortgages.

Always looking for the value add! Great perspective Leonard!

Post: 180 units in 12 months!

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Originally posted by @Caleb Brown:

If you were to give 3 tips for yourself when you first started what would it be?

 Really good question Caleb!

1 - Think bigger! Our initial strategy revolved around small stuff because it felt safe. While I think that is a great place to start, we could have gone bigger sooner I think

2 - Hire a property manager earlier. We learned some very valuable lessons managing the properties ourselves initially but I think we wasted too much time doing so.

3 - Think bigger! I really can't emphasize that one enough. We set some goals at the beginning of the year and we absolutely crushed them. I can't believe it. It makes me think we didn't set big enough goals!

Post: 180 units in 12 months!

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Originally posted by @Dale Osborne:

Congratulations Amanda and Javier! You both achieved you`re goals I`m so happy for you. My question is how did you get the financing for all of the properties? Was it conventional 25% to 30% loan? The market that I`m looking to purchase my first investment property is in Cleveland as well. I currently live in San Diego County Ca. I`m looking to partner up on a possible quadruplex here in Cleveland. If that something that you and Javier might be interested please feel free to contact me thru bigger pockets and then I will give my personal contact information to you. Thank you, Dale Osborne! 

Yes we got conventional financing with 25% down for both the bigger deals. Also - these were syndications so we had a number of LP investors contributing to the equity for the deal as well. Good luck with your journey, we love cleveland! 

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Originally posted by @Clay Boykin:

@Account Closed What an amazing story. I admire investors that blow their goals out of the water. Most of my investors and investments come from 1-4 units/residential, which they buy in volume. I am curious to know your numbers on this deal? Maybe I missed it in the article but I would love to learn more about this!

 Thanks Clay! Let's connect - I'll shoot you a PM

Post: 180 units in 12 months!

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Originally posted by @Robbie Young:

Congratulations for an excellent year.

I would just like to say that I believe your mistake #1 of self-managing for three months was not a mistake but a fortunate accident for you. Yes it sucked but you learned a lot. There are a number of landlords who have unrealistic expectations of property managers because they have never done at least enough to deal with most problems that come up time and time again. And there are property managers that tell their landlords stories and the landlord doesn’t have enough experience to know it is b.s. How can you really do a good job of managing your manager without that background? It slowed you down? This may have been a good thing while you gained real world experience before pushing forward with more growth. There are lots of examples of companies that grew too fast and failed because of it.

I don’t know if I would want to landlord in Seattle no matter the numbers on residential property. The appreciation may be great but their laws on evictions are not. I would probably look out of state as well.

 Really great point Robbie. I am really grateful for the lessons, even though they were painful. All part of the journey!

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Originally posted by @Tucker Cummings:

So inspiring and awesome to hear this! I’ve been wanting to make the transition to Multifamily and this lighting a fire under me too. Congratulations!

 Yes! Make it happen Tucker!

Post: 180 units in 12 months!

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Originally posted by @Jovany Espinoza:

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Hi Amanda, you mentioned in mistake #2 that owning single family is safer but multi-units or bigger units are more efficient; as a beginner, I am just starting to purchase my first property in San Antonio, Texas (single family) and I aspire to own multiple multi-unit complexes.

I'm having a hard to figuring out how to come up with the revenue, to make multiple purchases either single family or du-plex etc..., within one year. If I am using my own money, how does one acquire so much revenue in a short time frame, to turn around and purchase another property? With the exception of cash offers, how does one purchase multiple homes,, using conventional or FHA loans in such a short time frame?

 Hey Jovany! Great question. Full disclosure we did not buy the properties I mentioned all by ourselves. These are syndicated deals with a number GP and LP partners pooling their money to purchase. It would be impossible for us to do those deals by ourselves!

If you're looking for creative financing options, I would recommend Brandon Turner's book: Investing in Real Estate with No (and Low) Money Down. 

I think starting out with single family is a great way to get comfortable with the process, but you will tap out of your own resources pretty quickly. On the larger deals you will very likely need to find folks to partner with or raise capital unless you find a seller who wants to give you some sweet seller financing terms. 

Post: 180 units in 12 months!

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Originally posted by @Victor S.:

so, how did you become GPs without having any experience in syndications? i sure hope those LPs (and you) know what they're getting into. 

 Hey Victor, great question! We are part of team and are very grateful to be partnered with some very experienced folks. We are definitely NOT doing it alone :)