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All Forum Posts by: Austin Sine

Austin Sine has started 4 posts and replied 85 times.

Originally posted by @Herndon Davis:

Operations Cost factor exceeding 28%.  Why is so much of your revenue eaten up by monthly costs ranging into the 30's and 50% range?  When you start digging you realize this may be too much work to undo!

 @Herndon Davis Interesting, thanks for the insight. Total operating exp/total income? What line item do you typically see as inflated on the T-12?

Originally posted by @Danny Randazzo:

@Austin Sine the market, location, property class, and operator must be a yes then you get into the financials

@danny randazzo Agreed, no point in wasting time otherwise. What kind of operator are you looking for?

Post: What is the deal factor that immediately turns you off of a deal?

Austin SinePosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Kansas City
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 43
Originally posted by @Joe Splitrock:

Location. Real estate value and rent ability are driven almost completely by location.

 @Joe Splitrock 110% !

Post: What is the deal factor that immediately turns you off of a deal?

Austin SinePosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Kansas City
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 43
Originally posted by @Jessie Redd:

@Austin Sine

If my mother or wife wouldn’t feel safe coming in the house at night alone I won’t look at it.

@jessie redd Love the baseline! Great advice, thanks for sharing

Post: What is the deal factor that immediately turns you off of a deal?

Austin SinePosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Kansas City
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 43
Originally posted by @Bob Prisco:

@Austin Sine simple, location and or the numbers, thats all that matters,  really not sure how else to answer  that

 @Bob Prisco That about does it!

Post: What is the deal factor that immediately turns you off of a deal?

Austin SinePosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Kansas City
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 43
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @Austin Sine:

While doing back of the napkin due diligence what is a standout factor that will immediately turn you away from analyzing the deal any further?


 Houses too close together. Bad drainage. Location. Houses worth less than zero.

*Finished Basements come close to immediate rejection. I might be willing to offer $30k-$40k less. Or I'll pay a fair price once the finished basement is removed. 


@Merritt S. Thanks for sharing!

Post: What is the deal factor that immediately turns you off of a deal?

Austin SinePosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Kansas City
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 43
Originally posted by @Evan Polaski:

@Austin Sine, in Cincinnati, for instance, if you are selling a Class C property in a Class C neighborhood, on a major road, lots of deferred maintenance, for a 6.5% cap rate, I think that is too aggressive.  

On top of that, your 6.5% is based on rents $50-100 more per month, even though recent leasing didn't achieve those rates, and to get them you have to spend $8k/unit, but you market the property as turn key ready to go.  Proforma RET (this seems to be the biggest discrepency, and I live in a high RET area) is based on what the seller is paying, based on their purchase price.  When you pay double what they paid, your RET double, but that is not mentioned.  So the aggressive 6.5% is really a going in in the low 4's, and stabilized in the mid 5's when you account for new RET based on sale price.  And no Class C property in a Class C neighborhood is trading for that in Cincinnati.

At the end of the day, I get trying to point out the upside of a property. Great, do that.  If it is in a good school district, highlight that.  If market rents are a lot higher, even better.  But a lot of time it feels like the broker and/or seller is trying to pull wool over a buyer's eyes and I would classify as lying more than boasting about the property.

@Evan Polaski 

Love this breakdown. Very concise.  

It seems like 9/10 as a buyer you have to uncover all discrepancies yourself. I guess that's what separates a successful investor from the rest of the crowd. Thanks for sharing!

Post: What is the deal factor that immediately turns you off of a deal?

Austin SinePosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Kansas City
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 43
Originally posted by @Michael Jones:

My view at purchasing a property has a few areas that I must be satisfied with to make an offer. They are prioritized in this order:

1. Neighborhood. Its the one part of the deal that I can never change or fix.

2. Cash Flow. Will it cash flow where I need it to be? This may be after some repairs, rent increases and or tenant upgrades but will it cash flow?

3. Condition of the building. Cosmetics are not important on the insides of units but can be indicative of how the building has been taken care of. But carpet and paint will need to be replaced over time anyway so i pay little attention. Its the bones. I look at roofs, ac systems, plumbing, structure, windows.....the big dollar items. If these are risky then this will kill cash flow and I am out.

4. Current tenants. Is the unit full? if not, what is the issue. As an owner I would never sell a building with an empty unit because it hurts the value so why is this building for sale with empty units? I want to personally see every unit and have a copy of the file of every tenant in the building. That one meth head that is cooking or that one sex offender in unit x will kill cash flow. How many are on month to month and the more the merrier because I know i can flip the unit to a new tenant at my discretion.

5. Equity that will be in the building/business when I complete and minor repairs, flip units to better tenants and move the rents to current market rate? Increasing the rents to fair market rate is the fastest way to ensure that number two is also successful. I have yet to have a tenant move out due to getting an increase when i buy a building and the first time they meet me they are being notified that the rent is increasing so it isnt a soft sell. 

6. Laws regarding tenant/landlord in that state and county. If it is difficult, lengthy and expensive to evict a tenant then it will be more difficult to manage the tenant and the lease as well.

 @Michael Jones 

Loved this --  "Is the unit full? if not, what is the issue. As an owner I would never sell a building with an empty unit because it hurts the value so why is this building for sale with empty units? I want to personally see every unit and have a copy of the file of every tenant in the building. That one meth head that is cooking or that one sex offender in unit x will kill cash flow. How many are on month to month and the more the merrier because I know i can flip the unit to a new tenant at my discretion."

Thanks for sharing. Very informative

Post: What is the deal factor that immediately turns you off of a deal?

Austin SinePosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Kansas City
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 43
Originally posted by @James Wise:
Originally posted by @Austin Sine:

While doing back of the napkin due diligence what is a standout factor that will immediately turn you away from analyzing the deal any further?

 Location

@James Wise I've said it once and ill say it again. Location>Everything

Post: What is the deal factor that immediately turns you off of a deal?

Austin SinePosted
  • Real Estate Broker
  • Kansas City
  • Posts 86
  • Votes 43
Originally posted by @Stipe Ba:

@Austin Sine

Terrible school systems . Ideal tenants for me are families that want their kids in that school system . Also any major issues in basements I stay away from . Can be headaches down the road .

 @Stipe Ba Suprised this is the first response that has mentioned this! Very important. Thanks for sharing