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All Forum Posts by: Ben Schein

Ben Schein has started 2 posts and replied 5 times.

Post: Help narrowing neighborhoods in Detroit, Memphis & Pittsburgh (OOS buy & hold)

Ben Schein
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  • New to Real Estate
  • New York
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 2
Quote from @Jeremy Taggart:

@Ben Schein you'll never be able to spreadsheet neighborhoods or zip codes in PIttsburgh like that. The only way to get that deep of knowledge is getting it from someone that knows the area like the back of their hand and has been on the streets for years in the local market. Zip codes (and even specific neighborhoods) can encompass A class all the way to D class within the same borders. 

It's very nuanced here which makes it nearly impossible to do that off the cusp. That being said, there are a ton of opportunities because of that. If you can buy in the nicer pockets of neighborhoods that people write off completely you can get B class tenants/properties at C class neighborhood prices. Or you can get in the path of progress knowing which sections are just about to blow up as a result of the street by street/block by block nature of the area. I would probably focus more on building those relationships in whatever market you pick unless you can find a more cookie cutter market, but I doubt any of those markets will be like that.


 Thanks Jeremy, really appreciate this perspective - I was attempting to both be a more informed party and make a more confident decision before starting to engage with folks, but I see your point and realize now the best way to build that knowledge is by jumping in. Thanks again

Post: Help narrowing neighborhoods in Detroit, Memphis & Pittsburgh (OOS buy & hold)

Ben Schein
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  • New to Real Estate
  • New York
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 2

Hello all!

I’ve been deep into market analysis for the past few weeks, researching OOS markets to identify the best spot for my first investment (buy box below). So far, I’ve narrowed it down to Detroit, Memphis, and Pittsburgh, based on what I’m seeing for value-add opportunities, appreciation potential, population trends, median home prices, renter percentages, and landlord-friendly policies.

Where I’m getting stuck is drilling down from metro-level data into zip codes and neighborhoods. I plan to visit whichever market I choose, but I’m struggling to gain enough confidence to pick one and take that next step.

I’d love some advice on two fronts:

• How do you recommend honing in on specific neighborhoods or submarkets once you’ve chosen a metro? What methods, tools, or approaches have worked for you?

• Any insights or considerations for Detroit, Memphis, or Pittsburgh (or similar markets I might be overlooking)?

    A bit more about my strategy:

    I’m NYC-based, and while I know some strategies could work locally, my strengths and situation are better suited for long-term buy & hold value-add plays in more affordable markets.

    Buy Box:

    • Asset type: Multifamily (2-4 units)

    • Neighborhood type: C or B-class

    • Strategy: Buy & hold for long-term rentals

    • Key goals: Positive cash flow in year one, with a primary focus on long-term value growth through appreciation & value-add. I’m comfortable with rehab work but don’t want a full gut renovation for my first deal.

    Thanks in advance for your time and any advice you can share!

    Post: Rookie here! Average Home Value vs Median Sold Price

    Ben Schein
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    • New to Real Estate
    • New York
    • Posts 5
    • Votes 2
    Quote from @Mohammed Rahman:

    Hey, welcome to the real estate world! You're asking a really good and important question early on, which is awesome.

    So when it comes to average home value versus median sold price, here's the simple way to look at it: the average can get really thrown off by super expensive homes or really cheap ones. If a $10 million house sells in a neighborhood where most houses are $300K, the average number gets dragged way up and doesn’t really show the “normal” situation. That’s why most investors and analysts prefer to use the median — because it shows the middle point. Half the homes sell for more, half sell for less. It gives a cleaner, more accurate picture of what’s typical.

    Now, how you use them: Median sold price is better when you're trying to understand the general affordability of an area or if you're comparing it to incomes, rents, or cost of living. It's great for spotting trends too — like if the median is climbing fast, you know prices are heating up. The average can still be helpful if you're in a luxury market or if you're specifically targeting very high-end properties, but for 90% of regular investing strategies (BRRRR, flips, rentals), median is the move.

    When you’re doing your market analysis, I’d recommend mostly weighing the median price — but still glancing at the average just to catch if the market has weird pricing swings or outliers. Helps you catch weird patterns early.

    Are you thinking about doing your first deal locally or out of state?

     Thanks so much @Mohammed Rahman — really appreciate you taking the time for such a thoughtful reply. I'm leaning toward out of state for my first deal, since prices in the local New York area seem to be prohibitive with my starting capital and to my strategy (long term rentals ideally in multi-family with value add opportunities)

    Post: Rookie here! Average Home Value vs Median Sold Price

    Ben Schein
    Posted
    • New to Real Estate
    • New York
    • Posts 5
    • Votes 2

    This is incredibly helpful, thanks Cole

    Post: Rookie here! Average Home Value vs Median Sold Price

    Ben Schein
    Posted
    • New to Real Estate
    • New York
    • Posts 5
    • Votes 2

    Hello BiggerPockets community! Just starting my journey into real estate investing, and conducting my first market analyses. One datapoint I keep getting a little hung up on = is average home value, and it's leading to two separate but related questions: how do I most effectively use or weigh this metric as part of my analysis? And I understand the difference between the average home value and median sold price, but I'm curious which people use when evaluating a market, their rationale for that decision, and how they use the metric. Thanks so much in advance for any answers!