Skip to content
×
Pro Members Get
Full Access!
Get off the sidelines and take action in real estate investing with BiggerPockets Pro. Our comprehensive suite of tools and resources minimize mistakes, support informed decisions, and propel you to success.
Advanced networking features
Market and Deal Finder tools
Property analysis calculators
Landlord Command Center
ANNUAL Save 16%
$32.50 /mo
$390 billed annualy
MONTHLY
$39 /mo
billed monthly
7 day free trial. Cancel anytime

Let's keep in touch

Subscribe to our newsletter for timely insights and actionable tips on your real estate journey.

By signing up, you indicate that you agree to the BiggerPockets Terms & Conditions
×
Try Pro Features for Free
Start your 7 day free trial. Pick markets, find deals, analyze and manage properties.
Followed Discussions Followed Categories Followed People Followed Locations
All Forum Categories
All Forum Categories
Followed Discussions
Followed Categories
Followed People
Followed Locations
Market News & Data
General Info
Real Estate Strategies
Landlording & Rental Properties
Real Estate Professionals
Financial, Tax, & Legal
Real Estate Classifieds
Reviews & Feedback

All Forum Posts by: Brian Sheen

Brian Sheen has started 1 posts and replied 2 times.

Post: Did I get screwed on this flip?

Brian SheenPosted
  • Posts 2
  • Votes 0
Originally posted by @Jason D.:
@Brian Sheen you made $55k for 8 months work and no financial risk, I think you did ok. Would you have profited $55k on a $113k project, after all expenses, as only the GC on this project? I. Any case, Now you have the opportunity to try it on your own and reap 100% of the profits. I'd call it a win.

 I financed my own labor, so i did have some risk.  Not only monetary, but pushing my normal customers schedule back because it did take too long.

Post: Did I get screwed on this flip?

Brian SheenPosted
  • Posts 2
  • Votes 0

Evening folks! New to the forum and new to the flipping industry! However, not new to contracting.

I'm looking for a third unbiased party to help me decide whether i got screwed or not screwed.  Post might be long...

I will first start off by saying this has been a learning experience! And i knew going in that I'd learn. 

I recently partnered with a relative on a flip project.  He was the financial backer and i was the GC. He provided funds for the purchase, materials, and some helping hand labor(retired state worker with 0 experience) .  While i  (contractor/business owner of 15yrs)provided the experienced labor and also took care of the entire design of the project and researching/picking out the materials used. 

Although we did hire the siding, drywall and plumbing, I handled everything else. We did high end finishes including custom vanities, custom kitchen, tiled showers etc all built by myself. 

Here are the details: 

House- 3008sf, 4+ stall garage, 20x40 pool, 4 bed, 2 full 2 half bath.

The deal: 55%/45% in my favor of the profits. 

Purchase price was $127k with fees. Reno cost of materials and outside sub contractors was $113k for a total of $240k. Reno took 33 weeks off which he took 4 weeks off. I averaged 56 hours per week. My wife and 3 kids actually ended up working and provided an additional $12k worth of labor that i would end up taking out of my profits because he was paying his son out of his.

We sold the house for full asking price of $360k minus realtor commissions of $19,800. Note i was told what the house was going to be listed for, i had no input. He had discussed with our realtor. This essentially gives us a profit of $100k or $55k and $45 respectively. 

Now i realize some of this is my emotions coming out, so don't take it as arrogance, but the quality of work that was provided was top notch.  Not an average quick flip and get out.

As i write this i think of so many other details that should have been worked out.

Anyway, i realize that we agreed on the 55/45 split, which at my normal billing rate this doesn't come close to, however should i have negotiated getting 45 percent of the additional labor back as well as i repay 55%of his sons labor to him?