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All Forum Posts by: Benjamin Sulka

Benjamin Sulka has started 53 posts and replied 809 times.

Post: Should you rent to a friend?

Benjamin Sulka#5 House Hacking ContributorPosted
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 811
  • Votes 576
Quote from @Paul De Luca:
Quote from @Michael Wooldridge:

I’ve done business with friends and family all the time. They can be some of the best partners.

That said I only do business with some friends and family. Like anything in life you have to choose your partners carefully. And I’ve not known too many long term business partners who don’t become family/friends.


 Exactly, tons of businesses are family businesses. Sure, some don't work out but the same is true for non-family businesses. Personally I would rather run a family business with people I love and trust. I invest with my brother and would have no issue investing with my parents either.

If you invest with the wrong people, whether it's family or not, things are likely to go poorly. I have never liked the cliche advice of never investing with friends or family.

Personally I would not rent a unit to a friend though.


 Thanks for your reply! 

Post: Should you rent to a friend?

Benjamin Sulka#5 House Hacking ContributorPosted
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 811
  • Votes 576
Quote from @Adam Martin:

Not if I wanted to keep them as friends, same recommendation for family.  I keep my business and personal life separate and have declined family even though they were highly qualified because I’m not even putting myself in that situation and they understood. 


 Good advice. I appreciate the response. 

Post: Should you rent to a friend?

Benjamin Sulka#5 House Hacking ContributorPosted
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 811
  • Votes 576
Quote from @Tommy Parker:

I haven't rented to a friend before because I haven't gotten a chance for that to come up. However, I will say make sure everything is in writing. Make sure the lease is up to date the way you want it and that the expectations are clear. I would let the friend know that you have 2 hats. A friend and a property owner. So when making decisions on the property then you're wearing the property owner hat. I think if your friend has a reliable history then this would make it easy but if not I wouldn't have trouble even going there. 


 Thank you for your response! That is excellent advice. I don't think I will ever find myself renting to a friend, but that is a great way to look at it. 

Post: Should you rent to a friend?

Benjamin Sulka#5 House Hacking ContributorPosted
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 811
  • Votes 576
Quote from @Forrest Williams:

In general, no. Sooner or later something is going to come up. They will be late on their rent, you won't fix something in a way they won't like, and it can all go up in smoke. Now you've got an angry tenant and one less friend.


 Agreed. Thanks for the response! 

Post: Should you rent to a friend?

Benjamin Sulka#5 House Hacking ContributorPosted
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 811
  • Votes 576
Quote from @Matthew Bowling:

I've heard of people buying their first house in college and renting out rooms to their friends. I think house hacking is the only scenario this works in.


 My plan is to house hack for my first deal as soon as I graduate college in May of 2023. 

I have no plans to rent to any friends though. Just curious on opinions. 

Thanks for your response! 

Post: Should you rent to a friend?

Benjamin Sulka#5 House Hacking ContributorPosted
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 811
  • Votes 576

Hey BP, 

For those who have rental properties. Would you ever advise renting your property to a friend? What are some potential downsides here? 

Please comment if you have any experience or advice. I have no plans to rent to any friends but I am curious. 

Thank you! 

Ben Sulka



Post: New Investor Introduction

Benjamin Sulka#5 House Hacking ContributorPosted
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 811
  • Votes 576

Welcome, Joshua! I wish you the best of success & it is great to have you in the BP community. 

Post: Can I cash flow at 5% down?

Benjamin Sulka#5 House Hacking ContributorPosted
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 811
  • Votes 576
Quote from @Adriaan Sierra:

At the numbers that I have seen you would not be able to cashflow at anything below 10%.

With such a low down payment you would need to buy insurance that would eat your margin up.

Anything below 20% gets tricky. 


Just looking to do a house hack for my first deal so it doesn't necessarily have to cash flow. Trying to get my feet wet! Thank you for the response, Adriaan. 

Post: Can I cash flow at 5% down?

Benjamin Sulka#5 House Hacking ContributorPosted
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 811
  • Votes 576
Quote from @James Wise:
Quote from @Benjamin Sulka:

Hi all! 

I am concerned about not being able to find a property that can cash flow with 3.5-5% down. I am going to be investing near Cleveland when I graduate in 2023 and my price range is $150-$200k for a multi-family. 

Would it make more sense to wait until I have enough for 20% down? Or has anyone been able to find cash-flowing deals with a lower % down payment? 

Any advice would be greatly helpful.

Thank you! 

Ben Sulka, aspiring real estate investor 

 To get a property with that down payment you'll need to live in it. It's definitely not going to cash flow in a traditional sense, but it doesn't need to cashflow to make it a great investment. 

You need a roof over your head. In order to get a roof over your head you have to pay a mortgage. Do you want that mortgage to be your landlord's mortgage, or do you want it to be your own mortgage? Of course you want it to be your own mortgage. On top of that, you'll have tenants paying down your living expenses. It's a can't lose scenario for you.

James, thanks so much for your reply. I see you on BiggerPockets a lot and you have some awesome insight. My plan is to live in the property and try to get my rent to cover the mortgage as well as capex, vacancy and other expenses. I am not necessarily expecting to find a deal that cash flows. 

Post: Can I cash flow at 5% down?

Benjamin Sulka#5 House Hacking ContributorPosted
  • Cleveland, OH
  • Posts 811
  • Votes 576
Quote from @Andrew Duna:

Hi Ben! So yes, as other have also mentioned-- the typical minimum down payment for an investment property is going to be 25% down. So knowing this and your down payment - this would be a house hack- at which point breaking even and living for free is a pretty sweet deal. To answer your question with regards to other investment properties- yes. Most Cleveland properties in "rental neighborhoods" will cashflow with 25% down. 

A few things I would add. The amount of closing costs on your house hack property are going to surprise you. It's typically going to match the cost of the 3.5-5% down payment so just be mentally prepared for that. A good strategy you might consider if you plan on continuing to invest in real estate is finding a property that has sat on the market for a while and maybe needs a little work. In this case-  you can submit an offer where the seller covers your closing costs and you'll have a chance to get your feet wet with renovations- either by doing them yourself or gaining experience interacting with contractors. 

I'm not sure how you plan on qualifying for a property. If you will have a W2 once you graduate then a conventional lender will work great. But if you go into any sort of sales job or self employment then make sure to talk to some "private" lenders because you'd be surprised at the different ways they can get you qualified- and although the interest rate on these unconventional loan products might be a little higher... its a lot better to pay an extra $100-150/m towards your own equity rather than continuing to pay $800/m in rent for 2 years while you wait to become conventionally qualified. 

If you'd like help with any of this then I'd love to connect as I am an investor focused agent here in Cleveland. 


 Andrew, thanks so much for the response. You mentioned some super helpful things and I will definitely look into some properties that have been on the market for a while. I would love to connect with you.