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All Forum Posts by: Bill Walston

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Post: When to start using a CPA?

Bill WalstonPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Northeast TN, TN
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Originally posted by Steven Hamilton II:
Bill,

That is from conversations with several IRS Auditors and appeal agents. I did some work directly with the OPR. They said it was not typically a matter of knowledge; however, a matter of arrogance and attitude. A CPA who has a lot of representation experience will work with the auditor rather than "tell them how it is".

So my recommendation is that you do your due diligence.

I myself like to take a fairly aggressive approach. You have to work hard to make money.

-Steven the Tax Guy

Thanks Steven, for clearing that up. When I read your earlier post it sounded very much like you were implying that the official position of the IRS was a preference for an EA over other tax professionals. I can see how it may very well be the individual preference of some auditors and appeal agents.

I agree 100% with your due diligence recommendation. I have met both good and not so good tax attorneys, CPA's and EA's :)

And an aggressive tax pro is good to have on one's side - good on ya!

Post: Income or not?

Bill WalstonPosted
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Originally posted by Bob Harris:
Are the draws I take for rehab on my properties considered other income on my P&L statement or are they not included at all? My reason for asking is because all my expenses (subs, material, interest, and utilites) are on the statment and it really is looking bad. I know its not taxable income I just looking to clanup my P&L. This is a good question for my accountant but due to the time of year I can't get in to see her or even get her on the phone until 2/6. Thanks in advance for any help.

Bob

The draws against your construction loan would NOT be income and should not show up on your P&L. The draws should show up as a debit (increase) to your cash account and credit (increase) to a liability (probably "construction loan") account. The costs for subs, materials etc. that are part of your rehabbing costs should also be removed from your P&L. These are items that need to be added to the cost basis of your property. This will reduce the expenses on your P&L.

You're right...these are good questions for your accountant and I'm sure she will review them with you when you meet with her. In her defense, this is likely her busiest time of the year and she probably has clients "lined up" for appointments. This is why I stress that communication with your tax pro should be on-going and not just during the tax season :) That being said, if she is difficult to speak with all during the year, and not just during the tax season, it might just be time to look for a tax pro that is more accessible.

Post: When to start using a CPA?

Bill WalstonPosted
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Originally posted by Steven Hamilton II:

I am an Enrolled Agent, I represent people before the IRS and this is the preferred designation by the IRS for anyone who represents taxpayers before the IRS.

Steven, just wondering on what you base your premise that the IRS prefers EA representation for taxpayers.

Post: Pennsylvania - Rentals, LLC and Transfer Tax Question

Bill WalstonPosted
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Originally posted by Steve Babiak:

See my post above for the "correct" answer. The reality is that the state of PA gets 1% of every transaction, and the county the property is located in gets at least the same percentage. It's the local component that leads to state-wide variations.

Thanks for the clarification Steve. You're correct, I only spoke as to the state amount of the tax and didn't even give consideration to the county. That amount varies from county to county but is at least the 1%, right?

Post: Pennsylvania - Rentals, LLC and Transfer Tax Question

Bill WalstonPosted
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Originally posted by Mitch Kronowit:

How high, generally, do transfer taxes run in Pennsylvania? I didn't pay a penny in taxes to transfer our rental properties in California to our LLC, but even if we did, it wouldn't have been more than a couple hundred dollars per house.

I always enjoy learning how the law works in different states.

Mitch, if I remember correctly, the PA transfer tax is 1% on the "monetary value of the property." This could be a significant amount on a very simple transfer.

Post: Need some clarity!!

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Teri - There are a few ways you could handle the transaction: a) You can exercise your option and close with the seller, and then close with your buyer, b) You can assign your option contract to your buyer, or c) You can release the seller from his option (with a release agreement) and he can sign a new P&S Agreement with the buyer.

If you do a release, you can either be paid before closing or get a release fee at closing that would show on the seller's side of the HUD-1.

Post: Would I get protection from a LLC to manage my properties

Bill WalstonPosted
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Originally posted by Michelle G:

I am in NY so I would need that license.

The mortgages are with big companies.. Citimortgage and Primelending I think for sure I will further research the moving them into LLC

The loss I thought only was usable to offset capital gains at time of sale but I will look into that.

Thanks again

The transfer of real property to an LLC will, indeed, trigger the "due on sale" clause of a note. That being said, it is highly unlikely that your lenders would exercise the right to accelerate your loan. This is especially true if you transfer the property to an LLC which is 100% owned by the parties to the note. It's very common for property to be transferred to an LLC or a trust for estate planning purposes.

And Mark is spot on about the loss. Any loss that you cannot take is carried forward as a "prior year unallowed loss." If it cannot be used the next tax year, it will continue to be carried over until the passive activity is disposed of.

Post: LLC Liability Question

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Marc: Short answer. Most likely, yes. If he is awarded a judgment that is not covered by your insurance he would have a claim to the equity in the assets of the LLC. The risk can be mitigated by working with your insurance agent and a good real estate attorney.

Post: Get these two tax books

Bill WalstonPosted
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Originally posted by Charles Perkins:
I have checked both of these books out in the past. They are good resources and can help any investor understand the major points of the law.

They don't cover everything by any means but shed light on many of the tax areas affecting investors.

Anyone that has dug into tax much realizes that the rules and regulations are only a small part of the law. There are many tax cases, private letter rulings, Tax memos and other IRS & Treasury documents that can add insight or confusion.

A good understanding of the rules can help investors through out the year. Waiting until the end of the year to consider any tax consequences can be a huge mistake especially if you are buying and selling property, do a 1031 exchange, have involuntary conversions, or need to make any major expenditures.

Excellent Charles, especially about waiting until the end of the year. Investors should be in communication with their tax pro all during the year. You shouldn't expect your tax guy or gal to "fix it" after you've "FUBAR'd" your transaction, if you catch my drift.

Post: Expensing Property Management Costs

Bill WalstonPosted
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  • Northeast TN, TN
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Originally posted by Anthony Henderson:
... what else can a property owner expense?

Anthony...all good advice so far.

:Consult with your tax pro who is knowledgeable about your tax situation. If he/she is not real estate savvy, find one who is.

:Get those books suggested by David and read them. If nothing else they will help you ask your tax pro the "right" questions.

Finally, just for fun, take a look at Schedule E, Part I. You will see a list of the more common expenses. These include, but are not limited to, advertising, insurance, management fees, mortgage interest, taxes and insurance.

Hope this helps.