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All Forum Posts by: Clint Coons

Clint Coons has started 0 posts and replied 38 times.

Post: C-Corps and UCC-1s

Clint Coons
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  • Real Estate Attorney
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 53

Todd,

If you were looking to build credit for your corporation then you would want to reverse the transaction. That being said, Dun and Bradstreet wont recognize the transaction because it is between related parties. Also, you will need to report to D&B that your corporation is paying on time. To report you will need to be registered with D&B (you personally). Long and short is if you want to build credit for your corporation it takes time and there is no quick and easy solution. Check out http://www.bossoffice.com/credit on how it is done.

Post: C-Corps and UCC-1s

Clint Coons
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  • Real Estate Attorney
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 53

Todd,

I am not sure if you heard or read something about UCC-1 filing and their supposed benefits to delay creditors but I can tell you to tread carefully. A UCC-1 form, also known as a Financial Statement, is used in the commercial context to secure a lender's interest in a borrower's personal property as collateral for an extension of credit. (This also applies to securing a land trust interest or an LLC interest but not the underlying assets of the entity)

A UCC-1 form is typically filed with the state's Secretary of State Office and serves to put others on notice that the lender has a secured interest in the items listed on the form.

A UCC covers "Personal property" meaning non-real property used in operating a business, such as equipment, furniture, and inventory. On a few occasions a client will mistakenly believe that a UCC filing will cover real estate because a box on their form has a place to enter a "real estate description". This description is typically used for timber liens or for general fixture filings that cover an entire parcel of real estate.

Basically, the UCC-1 form serves as a public notice of a lender's interest in the assets for a business. Don't fall into any pitchman's trap about some obscure case or Public law argument lest you end up like Wesely Snipes. Strawman type transaction do not hold up in court and can only lead to problems down the road.

Post: Mixing Passive and non-Passive income?

Clint Coons
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  • Real Estate Attorney
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 53

Not that I know of but thanks for the welcome. I look forward to assisting with the posts.

Post: Mixing Passive and non-Passive income?

Clint Coons
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  • Real Estate Attorney
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 53

I agree with Charles that the activity, if it is flipping property, should be separated. As I stated earlier running an active business through an LLC in CA (regardless of how it is treated for federal income tax purposes) will increase your tax liability to CA. Simply put I always separate passive activities from no passive for tax reasons and asset protection concerns.

Post: Mixing Passive and non-Passive income?

Clint Coons
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  • Real Estate Attorney
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 53

Mitch,

Watch out for CA. LLCs in CA are hit with a franchise tax that does not apply to S-Corps. Another issue to consider is how you will be taxed on active income through an LLC. If the LLC is not set up to be taxed as a S-Corp you will be treated as a sole proprietor.

Post: Setting up a LLC in Nevada

Clint Coons
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  • Real Estate Attorney
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 53

Lynda,

Whatever you decide do not attempt to set up a LLC for your IRA on your own. If you pay for the setup and perform the work yourself you do run the risk of the Service finding that you made an impermissible contribution of services or assets to your IRA. Our firm has established several IRA LLCs and John is correct in that your operating agreement must contain specific language.

Regarding Nevada, you do not need an Nevada entity unless you are investing in Nevada. The LLC should be established in the state where you plan to purchase real estate. WA LLC protections are very strong.

Post: My SD 401/IRA as a Client.

Clint Coons
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  • Real Estate Attorney
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 53

Ralph,

This isn't even a grey issue in the tax code. IRC 4975 defines a prohibited transaction as follows:

A “prohibited transaction†is defined in IRC §4975(c)(1) as any direct or indirect:
a. Sale or exchange, or leasing of any property between a plan and disqualified person;
b. Lending of money or other extension of credit between a plan and disqualified person;
c. Furnishing of goods, services, or facilities between a plan and disqualified person;
d. Transfer to, or use by, or for the benefit of, a disqualified person of the income or assets of a plan;
e. Act by a disqualified person who is a fiduciary, whereby he deals with the income or assets of a plan in his own interest or for his own account; or
f. Receipt of any consideration for his own personal account by any disqualified person who is a fiduciary from any party dealing with the plan in connection with a transaction involving the income or assets of the plan.

Unfortunately everything you would like to do with your IRA falls within the definition of a prohibited transaction. Also, using an entity that you own or control either directly or indirectly falls within 4975.

What would you like to do? Do you want to access some of your retirement funds without paying a 10% early withdraw penalty? Give me an idea of your endgame and maybe I can help but the way you mention is not the way to approach a self directed IRA.

Post: Who Signs What When Seller In BK?

Clint Coons
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  • Real Estate Attorney
  • Tacoma, WA
  • Posts 38
  • Votes 53

Short answer is the Trustee controls the property at this point. The Trustee has the power to convey title free of any and all liens. If a homeowner lists the property with a realtor the sale can be set aside by the Trustee if someone purchases the property. I can't imagine this occurring given the seller has filed 13.