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All Forum Posts by: Ceril S.

Ceril S. has started 17 posts and replied 179 times.

Post: Renting to the super rich - who does it?

Ceril S.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Ithaca, NY
  • Posts 180
  • Votes 80

I ran across this little blip on zillow:

Most expensive rentals in LA

So I looked closer to home:

Most expensive rentals in Philadelphia

I know that there are huge mansions in NJ that I guess get rented to? CEO's or movie stars?

I know you'd have to have deep pockets to head down this road but I was curious if anyone here does this. Is it even profitable?

Regardless, it's fun to look at. 

Post: Can the seller do this? Cancel leases?

Ceril S.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Ithaca, NY
  • Posts 180
  • Votes 80

The deal is that it's a group of students. The way the lease reads is There is a "base" rent for a "base"number of students and for each additional person up the the max allowed - the rent goes up.  It looks like once (2-3 years ago) where the max number of people lived there and that was the rent $ advertised. (So theoretically, you could get that rent). My theory is that it was a fluke and that level of rent is actually unsustainable.  The lease also gives the option for the current tenants to renew the lease which this group did. 

Incidentally, we did see them and as far as they know they think they have a lease (since they signed it) and they fully expect to live there next year.   Really nice group of kids. (See? Too attached?)

Post: Can the seller do this? Cancel leases?

Ceril S.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Ithaca, NY
  • Posts 180
  • Votes 80

So, now the seller is asking whether we want to negotiate for 2015-2016 ourselves or if he should execute the lease. To me it sounds like a trap. If we decide either way, he will say it was our choice and whatever he stipulated previously is now a moot point.... (Therefore relieving him of our request for a concession on this point)

I understand the thought of walking away - he is unethical. 

The problem for me is here - and I know the pitfalls even as I'm saying it - but I'm posting it here to be able to see it hopefully more clearly: is a bird in the hand better than 2 in the bush?  ie. Is the lower lease locked in better than a hypothetical future lease or am I getting too attached to this property?  The numbers go from pretty good to just ok, but there is the hope that rents could be higher next year? (Yes I see this....looking for outside confirmation)

Post: Is Section 8 in high demand pretty much everywhere?

Ceril S.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Ithaca, NY
  • Posts 180
  • Votes 80

@David P. Did you run the section 8 tenants through your normal screening process? Do you have them pay an application fee, etc? This may be a stupid question but can you deny them using the same criteria you normally use (minus income)?

@bradley I have several phone calls to follow up on, then I will take you up on the offer!

Post: Is Section 8 in high demand pretty much everywhere?

Ceril S.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Ithaca, NY
  • Posts 180
  • Votes 80

@Bradley Bogdan thanks for the info. Definitely something that I will look into given the areas that I've been looking into.  Sounds like I have some research to do...,

Post: Is Section 8 in high demand pretty much everywhere?

Ceril S.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Ithaca, NY
  • Posts 180
  • Votes 80
Originally posted by @Jeff Brower:

http://www.huduser.org/portal/datasets/fmr/fmr_il_history.html

take a look above at the link which will give your FMR for any county. compare this to what you might find on craigslist ads for rent. lake county ohio (30 mins east of Cleveland) is comparable for section 8 vs non- section 8.

Does FMR equal the amount that section 8 would pay? I've never thought much about section 8 but it's very comparable to non-section 8 maybe even better if so.

Post: If I create an LLC to do my property management am I illegally running a property management company?

Ceril S.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Ithaca, NY
  • Posts 180
  • Votes 80

@Steve Wilcox @Bill Gulley relistening to that podcast!

Post: If I create an LLC to do my property management am I illegally running a property management company?

Ceril S.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Ithaca, NY
  • Posts 180
  • Votes 80

There has been plenty plenty talk here about forming an LLC or not. We decided to go ahead and create an LLC, but were told by our lawyer that after closing on the the property we wouldn't be able to move it over to the LLC until the title is filed and that takes time. So, that creates a gap in time. We want to keep the finances clean and run everything through the LLC but not sure how to receive $ under the LLC. I thought that I had read in another thread (that I can't find now) that I can lease the property from me personally to the LLC and then the LLC can therefore lease the property out and manage it.

My question is - 1) is this legal - for me to lease the property to the LLC and have the LLC lease it out? 2) Have I now started a property management company illegally since the LLC will be taking care of property that it doesn't own?

My question is also asking for advice about how to structure things. Eventually the LLC will have title on the property - then am I considered the owner when I work on the property?

Thanks for any advice!

Post: Can the seller do this? Cancel leases?

Ceril S.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Ithaca, NY
  • Posts 180
  • Votes 80
Originally posted by @Patrick L.:
Originally posted by @Ceril S.:

I was also curious what the tenant rights were in this case as well. I mean, they did sign leases in good faith.  And up to this point it's only his word (which doesn't mean much) saying that the lease isn't really valid. 

Has anyone had a tenant sign a lease then cancel it?

 Once the lease is signed it's a valid lease, a change in ownership won't void it.  Whoever owns the property has to honor the lease unless you can get a mutual termination from the tenant.  

 The owner says that yes he signed the lease but he never gave the signed copy to the tenants and claims that it's not valid therefore. Our lawyer says that technically it's correct that if both parties don't have signed contracts.... But we have a copy of the signed contract!

Post: What's a good rental property in nj?

Ceril S.Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Ithaca, NY
  • Posts 180
  • Votes 80

@Abdul R. I agree with @Scott Weaner - I've been using the 1% rule as the "sniff test". Then plugging it into the calculator - high property taxes can definitely kill it. Beginning to wonder about investing out of state - the cheaper taxes would pay for a property manager....