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All Forum Posts by: Chris Zias

Chris Zias has started 1 posts and replied 6 times.

This is all good advice and things I never thought to consider.  I will get a real estate lawyer.  And go from there.  I thank everyone.  

I should add that she does pay her mortgage just not enough monthly.  The economy is tough on those who don't have the right skills for white collar work.  She's a part of the gig economy (proletariat).  Drives ubers or instacart.  She makes her own hours, but only so many hours in a day sadly. 

Quote from @Arman Ahmed:

@Chris Zias

Chris, sounds like you’re stepping into private lending territory, and it’s smart you’re asking these questions first. The key is making sure you’re protected legally — a promissory note and recorded lien or mortgage against the property is what secures your position. A simple written agreement won’t cut it if things go sideways. If you’d like, I can connect you with a solid real estate attorney here in Ohio who can draft the right docs and make sure you’re covered.


 Sure.  I do need a recommendation on real estate lawyer actually.  I would appreciate that. 

Quote from @Corby Goade:

If she isn't paying her mortgage and could lose her house, why would she pay you?

All kinds of red flags here; don't work with close friends or family. Don't loan money to people who don't pay their bills. 

In addition, at best, you'd be in second position and if she loses the house or defaults, you'd never see a dime. 

Please don't do this- go find your own deal and start building a portfolio for yourself. 

 I already have a portfolio.  And doing well.  I thought I could start to give back and have a purpose outside of myself.   I always plan and want to make money towards financial freedom.  But If I lost the money, my world wouldn't end.  

Wow.  Appreciate your candid response and experience.  All points well heeded.  I did want to have her fill out a balance sheet, see the in and outflows.  Like you said, figure out where she is wasting her money.   Some people are just clueless about money - lack of opportunity to gain financial intelligence and what not.   A min maybe I can help her with that.

Assuming this person as a more "typical" property investor or wants to get into the game, is there is a standard contract for Hard Money Loans? 

I could ask AI, but we all know how that may go.


Thanks again!

Sorry if this is wrong category.  And I'm sure this topic has been discussed before.

I have a friend who owes her lender (probably a bank) around $9k.   I told her in the past I'd like to help her not lose her house.  

She agreed and is asking for a loan from me to pay off her late mortgage and fees. With promise that will pay me back over a course of a year plus an additional $3k. Then we would also work together and repair her house (a separate contract perhaps) so she can airbnb/furnishedfinder it. Since it's not that far from downtown and not bad drive to Lake Erie. I would take about 25% of the net from STR for a year.


Are there any resources and things like contract templates for a hard money loan like this.  Steps I need to take to make sure it's legal and binding.    And I may need some custom clause in the case where she doesn't pay me back in full.    Do I request half ownership of the house or some other penalties?  As a landlord, I feel late fees are kind of dumb in a way, since if the person can't pay rent in time,  a fee just puts them further behind the 8 Ball and even further behind in some case.   

Anyways any thoughts and guidance are welcomed.   As I can see this being a new offering I can start doing in future.

Thanks!