All Forum Posts by: Collin Hays
Collin Hays has started 138 posts and replied 2774 times.
Post: Pros and cons of...

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I have always favored buying a property that, with a little polish, can achieve much higher rents. Over the weekend, I looked at a property that could do probably 30 percent better in annual rents just with some new photographs!
Back in 2010, I bought a very old (circa early 1800s) cabin right on the Roaring Fork in downtown Gatlinburg that was an absolute dump. Junky furniture, soiled carpets. It was awful. I bought it for super cheap. We brought in a dumpster and tossed the entire contents of the house and stripped out the carpet to find these amazing, 100 year old hardwood floors. We refurnished the cabin with functional antiques and played up the "oldness" of the cabin. It took us about 60 days and $30,000. Rents doubled in year one.
Post: Property managing for STR… self managing vs online or local companies

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You would be far better off doing just about anything than hiring Evolve or Vacasa. They offer the worst of both worlds - you will still be managing your home, and they will be taking 40 percent of your revenue (despite what their marketing materials tell you).
Self manage if you have the time, interest, and energy. But I wouldn't buy anything where the numbers don't work if I had to hire a local PM. You may get sick of managing and want someone else to do it, at some point.
Post: Self traveler insurance

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Quote from @Brian Schlosser:
Does anyone offer their own traveler insurance? By "their own" I am referring to the guest paying you directly and if a cancellation were to occur you would refund then directly. I use ownerrez for my listing website and ownerrez offers insurance to the guests on my behalf. Many purchase it but few cancel. Seems like it could be worth the extra revenue to offer it myself if that's possible.
Why not just self-insure? Collect the "premiums", and when you have a cancellation, reimburse yourself. You probably can't call it "insurance" in your state, but you could call it "Cancellation Protection" or similar. Same for "damage waiver". Both of these are huge profit centers for management companies (although my company offers neither).
Post: What States are STR investors buying in right now?

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I would be looking in the southern Appalachians. North Georgia, Western NC, eastern TN, even possibly southwest VA and a part of West VA. Favorable destinations, and healthy tax and STR climates.
Post: What States are STR investors buying in right now?

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Quote from @Justin Brickman:
Texas Texas Texas
Taxes taxes taxes. The property taxes in Texas will eat your lunch. Ask me how I know.
Post: To LLC or not to LLC

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You are attempting to kill a fly with a sledge hammer. I agree with John.
Post: First STR Market Choice

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Quote from @Katy Katz:
I am ready to invest in my first STR. I work full time and the goal is to own 10-15 properties in the next 3-5 years that are completely managed. Chicago is a difficult market for STR. What are the pros and cons of getting the first property in a market outside of my hometown?
I am assuming there are go-to retreats within a couple of hours of Chicago. Find those!
Post: Tampa STR zoning/licenses

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Quote from @Andrew Steffens:
@Collin H.
Not in the state of Florida they don’t.
It is one thing to breach code on your own investments, and quite another to advise someone else to do the same.
Post: Tampa STR zoning/licenses

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Quote from @Andrew Steffens:
The county's "law" is actually invalid and not enforced. I believe it was 2014 where the state handcuffed local governments from passing new laws or changing old laws in regards to frequency and duration of rental periods. Hillsborough county passed their law in 2019 and while illegal has been effective. When people call the county and ask about rental regulations they are told there is a 7 night minimum and people abide, or opt for long term rentals, etc.
We have about 40 rentals in Hillsborough County. Only once did they send a sort of warning letter stating the law. There was no enforcement, and when we called and mentioned to them above, they just told us to disregard it. If they were to enforce it with a fine or other enforcement mechanism, they would be sued and a court would strike down the law. Since they do not enforce it, it cannot be challenged, and therefore will not be removed.
https://www.avalara.com/mylodgetax/en/blog/2022/05/state-of-...
I wouldn't hang my hat on that. Just because code isn't being enforced doesn't mean it isn't enforceable. Counties and municipalities have unfettered ability to zone and re-zone areas as they see fit. There is a mountain of case law behind that, too. It is their sandbox.
Post: Curious if my home would be a good STR - wine country

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Is it even possible to run a business in California these days?