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All Forum Posts by: Steve L.

Steve L. has started 34 posts and replied 1220 times.

Post: Renting to FHA Buyer to "wait out" 90 day seasoning

Steve L.Posted
  • Investor
  • Rancho Cucamonga, CA
  • Posts 1,338
  • Votes 684

Ya don't do that. It is 6 months if they rent.

If you are buying at 60-65% of ARV, just wait it out. You'll still make lots of money.

FHA transactions are also going much quicker, I have my second one closing in under 30 days after opening escrow. So now it can be done in 4 months instead of 5.

Post: Granite Countertop Question

Steve L.Posted
  • Investor
  • Rancho Cucamonga, CA
  • Posts 1,338
  • Votes 684

I'd put in granite. It's not very expensive if you do basic granite and really show your prices.

Post: Agents not working diligently??

Steve L.Posted
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  • Rancho Cucamonga, CA
  • Posts 1,338
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Buy from a wholesaler. It is worth it for someone in your position! They give you a list of medium to good deals...

Post: Don't do Double Close Escrow for Short Sales

Steve L.Posted
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  • Rancho Cucamonga, CA
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I wonder why it is okay on REO's? Because a bank and not a retail buyer is involved?

If you are a better marketer than the existing agent how does that make things illegal?

Post: Flipping REO's via Land Trust

Steve L.Posted
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  • Rancho Cucamonga, CA
  • Posts 1,338
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Hi Anthony,

Does a land trust have a yearly fee? When I've tried to wholesale properties via an LLC the buyers have had issues with the LLC fees etc.

We like Fontana too, buy a lot of properties there!

Post: Don't do Double Close Escrow for Short Sales

Steve L.Posted
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  • Rancho Cucamonga, CA
  • Posts 1,338
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I heard the same thing.

Very scary territory as they have all your info and they can go back 5 yrs.

Post: Does REO also mean Cash only?

Steve L.Posted
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  • Rancho Cucamonga, CA
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Rael, some REOs are cash only. It will typically say in the agent notes. If it is good condition it will go to financing just like a standard sale.

Post: Multi-partner Deal Question

Steve L.Posted
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  • Rancho Cucamonga, CA
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In the past I have structured deals giving an investor a percentage of the upside of a deal.

Here is my typical blanket terms:

These are not legally binding and you should consult a lawyer (which I am NOT) before structuring any agreement.


- Investor would receive original investment plus profit back within 5 business days of the sales escrow closing.

-The investor will be provided with full accounting on all revenue and expenses with regards to this property.

- In the event we do not sell the property for a profit, investor will receive their original investment back only. They will not participate in the losses.

- Owner will not charge the project for personal labor or expertise.

- In the event the property is not sold in 12 months, the property will be appraised and the investor will receive payment based on the appraised value.

- The investor’s principal amount will be personally guaranteed by me.

Post: Losing out to cash buyers

Steve L.Posted
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  • Rancho Cucamonga, CA
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Originally posted by Scott M.:
"According the REO agents I know the asset managers do not put a huge advantage on cash offers unless the property is un-financable."

I totally disagree with this statement. Doesn't matter if a home is in complete disrepair of in move in condition - doesn't matter if it is $5,000 or $500,000 - Cash does have a huge effect on asset managers - The REO agents you know are not telling you truth about real estate.

Asset managers love cash they will often take a lower cash offer VS a financing offer.


It depends on the property. If the property is trashed and a bank won't loan money on it, they will only take accept cash offers. But if a property is totally financable, cash may get a 5% discount, but for sure not a 10% discount (at least in California). We get beat out to conventional or FHA offers all the time, for it to fall out of escrow 3 and 4 times because the bank will not loan on the property.

Some asset managers really like cash, but we can't come in 20-30% lower just because it's cash.

Post: Losing out to cash buyers

Steve L.Posted
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  • Rancho Cucamonga, CA
  • Posts 1,338
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We used to hit 1 out 3 with agents we have had relationships with. From June until now we've made 300-400 offers and only bought 4 properties (2 over asking price). We are cash buyers.

According the REO agents I know the asset managers do not put a huge advantage on cash offers unless the property is un-financable.

I'd suggest you wait until the winter. I think California is going to see a lot more inventory (but it depends what end of the market you're dealing).