Originally posted by @Michael Badin:
@John Mocker I am sorry to tell you but you are incorrect. Additional insured's have nothing to do with liability. Additional insureds are in fact insureds on the insurance policy. By law all insureds must be included on all first-party claims. I issue these claim payments every single day at work. I am not confusing loss payee with additional insured. All additional insureds are in fact loss payees on first-party claims. Liability claims are third party claims and do not deal with payments to the insured but rather a third party claimant. You are correct that a mortgagee is an additional insured. And as an additional insured a mortgagee is included on all claim checks for the property they are considered an additional insured. On a homeowner's policy a mortgage company is considered an additional insured for the dwelling but not an additional insured for the personal property.
There are many things on this forum that I am not well educated on yet. I am working on educating myself in many areas of Real Estate. However I have over 14 years experience with this and I am not confused on it. I deal with it every day.
@Frank Chin I agree with you that there should be a way to track for landlords. Unfortunately as of right now I know of no way to do that. (At least not legally.) I also agree with you about tenant fraud, claiming damages that never existed. It is a big problem. My suggestion would be to include the insurance clause of recommending or requiring renters insurance. Have them sign an attestation that they understand that all personal property is not covered by the landlord policy. You then include another clause (worded better by your attorney) stating that if the tenant sues you and is found to be in the wrong then any and all costs associated with your defense is paid by the tenant. This could include attorney fees, court costs, lost wages for time lost at your day job, etc. If your tenant tries to sue you for a personal property insurance claim then you can show them where they signed acknowledging that they knew they were responsible to get their own insurance and that your insurance does not cover them. Then show them the legal clause and perhaps they will come to their senses and drop their suit.
Sorry for the long post everyone.
I showed both of Michael's posts to my agent of 30 years who carries both business and personal policies for me.....
I require renter's insurance evidence before keys, and require 'named insured' status in the lease language, I should ever entertain allowing a dog, then there has to be a rider for that animal.....
His take: the way I do it means I'm covered for damages to my properties beyond structural and basic 'landlord' coverages including loss of rent in the event some yokel has a kitchen fire, I'm not liable for personal property of a tenant or guests,nor am I liable for any liability situation they should cause. In the event of a dispute over 1st or third party status, all I need to do is file a claim through my master policy and they will subrogate for damages while I fix whatever needs fixing. I have been in battle with tenant insurance companies and their contractor adjusters more than once as a third party...and got my money each time. Fact, no tenant insurer is your friend, and most of the time yours can be adversaries too. Each state has laws regarding how an insurance company must deal ethically with a claimant. Failure to do so is defined as bad faith and has courtroom consequences...ie: punitive damages. I suggest that you visit a local landlord association and find out when they will have their next meeting covering insurance woes and gotchas since your state isn't my state. Be informed.
Oh, and he was wondering why an adjuster had any input beyond assessment of damage. So was I.