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All Forum Posts by: David Disraeli

David Disraeli has started 5 posts and replied 84 times.

Post: LLC for each state in REI?

David DisraeliPosted
  • Financial Advisor
  • Cedar Park, TX
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 29

With the Texas Series LLC, you can form one main entity and protect each property. One tax I.d. One bank account, etc. Whether you have to domesticate the TX entity elswhere turns on whether you are collecting rent on those states. This is what I recommend.

Post: Wyoming LLC- anonimity for other states?

David DisraeliPosted
  • Financial Advisor
  • Cedar Park, TX
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 29

It is true that if someone wants to see behind the curtain all they have to do is sue. The issue with anonymity is your name is not in public records. That said, I have created multiple anonymous trust-owned LLC's for people here in Texas and it is a beautiful thing. However, some states ask not only who or what entity the managing member is but who can sign on behalf of the entity. There goes the anonymity. Those are called disclosure states. Texas does not require the signatory's name.

Post: Privacy, Real Estate an LLC's

David DisraeliPosted
  • Financial Advisor
  • Cedar Park, TX
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 29

With a few mouse clicks anyone can find out where you live, what you own,  your cell phone number, your relatives’ names, and more. A simple search of your local appraisal office will reveal what you own.  The good news is this unwanted publicity is, in large part, optional.  

If you own property in an LLC, you may be shielded from personal liability but that is only one issue. There are many reasons why some one would be interested in knowing what you own. It may have nothing to do with the real estate itself (a traffic accident) or it may. The owners of a corporation, partnership, or LLC are not pubic record (in Texas). However, the managers and the registered agent are public record. Frequently the managers and owners are the same people. Therefore, it is not difficult to find out who controls a business. The fact that your name is associated with a business can be important for a couple of reasons. One, you may simply want your affairs private and two, if someone is considering suing you, they are going to do their research and find out what you own.

What is the solution? What if you were told you could own property or a business and your name would not appear in any public record?Sounds interesting does it not? There is a lot of talk on Bigger Pockets about using an LLC in one state to form an LLC in another state or a land trust. That is over kill (and will not work in a disclosure state anyway). All you need is a simple trust and someone to act as your registered agent. Trusts are not public record. They are not filed anywhere and the details about who formed the trust and who controls it can only be disclosed via a court order. Trusts can certainly own property and many do. Trusts may also form and own an entity like an LLC. In this scenario, the only information the secretary of state has is the name of the trust as the managing member and it ends there. Your name simply does not show up anywhere.

What is a trust? Many books have been written about trusts. For purposes of this article I will simplify. A trust is a vehicle that is used to hold and distribute property or assets. Trusts fall into one of two categories; revocable and irrevocable. All trusts have three components, the grantor or person creating the trust, the trustee who controls the trust, and the beneficiaries who receive the benefits of the trust. In some cases, the same person or persons may hold all three positions. A revocable trust is just that – revocable. The terms may be changed at any time or dismantled completely. The common term used for this type of trust is "Living Trust". The reason this term is used is because the trust ceases at the death of the grantor(s) or creator(s). Living trusts are private, avoid probate and have built-in measures to deal with the incapacity of the person who created the trust. Living trusts are also tax-neutral – meaning they pay no income tax and are not required to obtain an EIN. Rather all the income is reported on the grantor's tax return as if it did not exist. The main disadvantage of a revocable living trust is that it provides no asset protection as the assets are available to the creditors of the grantor. The reason for this is that the grantor can revoke the trust at any time as if it never existed. In any event, if all the assets of this type of trust are in LLC's, creditor protection may not be an issue due to the existing protection LLC's offer. Finally, all the assets of a living trust pass outside probate to the heirs that are listed. In this way, no one can find out what you left and to whom. In addition, living trusts make challenges significantly more difficult since the property will have already been distributed before anyone decides to initiate a dispute.

Irrevocable means the trust cannot be revoked and the assets are beyond the reach of creditors if it is set up correctly. The main disadvantage of an irrevocable trust is that the grantor who placed assets in the trust may not normally change the terms of the trust or decided to take the assets out. A detailed discussion of any type of trust should be conducted with a qualified professional. The living trust/LLC combination is just one way to conduct business or own assets anonymously. Besides the benefits of privacy this structure could make life very difficult for a potential plaintiff and their attorney – so much so the attorney likely will look for another case! If you are interested in learning more, you will need someone who is equally familiar with trust law and tax law as they are intertwined. I can point you in the right direction. Send me a message if you'd like to discuss this trust/LLC combo.

David Disraeli

Post: Out of State tax for a new LLC

David DisraeliPosted
  • Financial Advisor
  • Cedar Park, TX
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 29

I have done considerable research on this exact scenario.  If you are a resident of CA and file a state tax return, you are required to pay the $800 minimum CA franchise tax. A local CPA may have suggestions on this question.  

Post: Texas Commercial Financing

David DisraeliPosted
  • Financial Advisor
  • Cedar Park, TX
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 29

As for building credit of the LLC - that is true. I have personal and business credit myself, but it will be years before the LLC has enough of its own trade lines reporting and any bank will still want a personal guarantee. The only time I've seen them waive that is where the LTV is less than 1/2 or there are just too many investors to get PG's from. Good luck

Post: Texas Commercial Financing

David DisraeliPosted
  • Financial Advisor
  • Cedar Park, TX
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 29

If you are maxed out then this is irrelevant. We deed the properties directly to the LLC and avoid dealing with the bank. Technically that could trigger their "due on sale clause" but I have never once heard of a bank doing that.

Post: Texas Commercial Financing

David DisraeliPosted
  • Financial Advisor
  • Cedar Park, TX
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 29

Community banks still do. However, your rates will be higher than FNMA type loans.  You can take out the loan and deed it back - potentially.  Let me know if you'd like to hear exactly how that works.  

Post: Anonymous llc asset protection

David DisraeliPosted
  • Financial Advisor
  • Cedar Park, TX
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 29

@Mike Reynolds There are many components of the question. Yes two trusts can own an LLC 50/50, or a trust + an individual. The possibilities are endless. However your question seemed to be more about heirs that anonymity. When an LLC interest transfers in whole, or in part, the heir receives the same protections as the original owner. As far as refinancing goes, the money available to individuals is a different pool than for LLC's. I.e., different terms/rates. I am not an expert on that.

Post: Anonymous llc asset protection

David DisraeliPosted
  • Financial Advisor
  • Cedar Park, TX
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 29

I agree with John.  However one of your questions dealt with anonymity.  As a professional who creates structures for a living more and more clients are asking about anonymity.  This is not just paranoia, it is good business.  Even with the best of intentions why make it easy for someone to find you or the driver of the car who hit you to find out what you own?  

Registering in an anonymous "friendly" state, and then creating an entity in Texas is cumbersome because now you have filing obligations in two states, two EIN's etc. Better - form a trust that is named something that does not identify you and use the trust to form a single-member LLC in Texas. This way there is simply no public record that shows your name - not the entity and not the property. Trusts are not filed anywhere and they avoid probate. Worth a look!

BTW The Texas Series LLC allows you to protect multiple properties in one LLC. Last every entity has to have a registered agent and if you are trying to keep your name off of any document you will have to find someone (a friend) to do that for you or use a service.

Post: Should I form an LLC?

David DisraeliPosted
  • Financial Advisor
  • Cedar Park, TX
  • Posts 88
  • Votes 29

The difference between having zero personal liability and any is huge, not to mention no liability. An LLC that is properly constructed and managed is NOT subject to being pierced. Anything is possible but plenty of case to law to support that. Of course, there are a number of ways to sabotage your own entity if you aren't careful. A complete discussion of this is way beyond a blog post. You do not need to use a commercial loan if you buy/finance first which is what all my clients do. Lastly in Texas you only need one "series" LLC to maximize protection for multiple properties. PM me if you'd like more information.