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All Forum Posts by: Patrick Shawn Faherty

Patrick Shawn Faherty has started 3 posts and replied 182 times.

Post: Provision Wealth

Patrick Shawn FahertyPosted
  • Fredericksburg, VA
  • Posts 190
  • Votes 64
Originally posted by @Helen Bollinger:

We were really excited to work with ProVision but after reading the fine print and asking more questions, we were really turned off.  The 2-3 month planning session will cost you $9,750 where they develop a strategy for you.  My concern with this is that it's immediately out of date as soon as any tax laws get passed, business changes, etc.  And if you need any updates, they will charge you for that.  They also of course charge for the taxes.  When I started to clarify all of this and asked for a schedule of fees including their billable hourly rate, how much our 2016 taxes would cost, and how much 2017 quarterly taxes would cost... I was told "we're probably not going to be a good fit for you at this time."  That seemed very shady to me that you can't disclose your fees and how much this is actually going to cost me after the enormous charge of a strategic plan that is stagnant.  If anyone knows of CPAs who do similar work to ProVision and are transparent, I would love to connect.

 Wow, I can't believe they don't publish their fees.

Have you had a consult with http://markjkohler.com/ at http://kkoslawyers.com/lawyers/mark-j-kohler/ ? 

Post: Growth Equity Group

Patrick Shawn FahertyPosted
  • Fredericksburg, VA
  • Posts 190
  • Votes 64

I can't tell what their relationship is to https://flipnerd.com/.  (See tab at top of the page.)

Post: Holdfolio

Patrick Shawn FahertyPosted
  • Fredericksburg, VA
  • Posts 190
  • Votes 64
Originally posted by @Donald Rossiter:

Anyone else invest with Holdfolio?  James do you have an update on how your experience has been with them?  I'm thinking of investing with them and have a call setup with them today to discuss.  I would really like to get some feedback from people who have invested with them.  Thanks.  

 Bump. Any other feedback?

Post: Should I tell people how I find my deals?

Patrick Shawn FahertyPosted
  • Fredericksburg, VA
  • Posts 190
  • Votes 64
Originally posted by @John Thedford:

@Joshua D.

This is why I have encouraged so many people to go into HML. Even some agents in my office are now engaging in HML. Nobody is going to corner a market. I have certain customers that will stick with me. We have great relationships and two things I can count on: they keep their word and I keep mine. NEVER hurts to help others. One day I am sure one of them will say "thanks"..and that will be reward enough.

 I'm not sure I follow you. Can you please provide more info? Thanks.

Post: LLC?

Patrick Shawn FahertyPosted
  • Fredericksburg, VA
  • Posts 190
  • Votes 64
Originally posted by @Alan Kong:

@Alex Sanfilippo @Patrick Shawn Faherty @Brandon Battle You might be referring to Amanda Han instead of Amy Tan? See https://www.biggerpockets.com/renewsblog/2016/02/18/bp-podcast-162pay-irs-amanda-hancpa/

Thanks Alan!

This is an interesting model and I am interested in it. I do have a few questions with regards to investing inside of and SDIRA. Specifically if UBIT can be avoided.  Here is what I found on the Holdfolio website.  Thoughts? 

Is the income from this investment considered dividend income, or rental income?

Rent income that is collected is considered rental income. When the properties are sold, the

profit is considered capital gains.

How long will the investment be?

The goal of the company is to own the homes for a holding period to collect rental income &

take advantage of the tax benefits of owning real estate. The targeted holding period before

the company will consider liquidity options is 3 to 5 years. It is in the best interest that the

company sells the properties at the right time, this event may occur sooner or later than

projected holding period depending on market conditions, performance factors, and desires of

the investor members. If it is not the right time to sell, then the company will hold onto the

properties for cash flow.

What type of tax documentation do investors get?

You will receive a Schedule K1 at the conclusion of the tax year. Holdfolio intends to send this

document to you by the end of January each year.

Can I invest using retirement funds?

Yes. The most popular way individuals invest using their retirement funds is by using a

Self­Directed IRA. Many custodians exist and Holdfolio can work with all of them. Some

popular ones include Equity Trust Company and New Direction IRA.

When I invest with my Self­Directed IRA, is the income subject to UBIT?

No. If we used debt to purchase our rental properties, then UBIT would apply to the IRA.

However, we hold all of our rental properties debt­free, so UBIT does not apply.

Post: Using IRA money to buy / create notes

Patrick Shawn FahertyPosted
  • Fredericksburg, VA
  • Posts 190
  • Votes 64

@Bob E. - tagging you.

Post: Using IRA money to buy / create notes

Patrick Shawn FahertyPosted
  • Fredericksburg, VA
  • Posts 190
  • Votes 64
Originally posted by @Bob E.:

Both my wife and I have set up an account with a self directed IRA provider that we are very happy with. They have been quick to close several types of transactions and things seem to flow smoothly with this firm. Since January we have:

  1. Made one loan to an LLC for a commercial building,
  2. Funded a flip property with a profit split, (just listed yesterday).
  3. Bought a rental property with the intent of selling it to the curant renters, 
  4. and bought a property that we will finish rehabbing Monday but have not decided if we want to flip, rent, or sell with owner financing.

Feel free to reach out to me if you are interested in opening a self directed IRA and want to get an idea what to expect from the process, I am not a service provider and do not have anything to sell but can give you an idea what to expect if you are considering a self directed IRA. I addition to the above you can also buy performing or non performing notes in an IRA or just about bout anything else (there are a few small exceptions like art work).

@Bob E, doesn't this flipping of houses inside your IRA expose you to UBITas it is not passive income?

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Separately, what are peoples thoughts on partnering with someone else to buy notes inside of an SD IRA/IRA LLC? In this scenario both parties in the joint venture would be on the title and have an ownership interest in the note. Any prohibition? Does this become non-passive (and then expose the IRA to UBIT)?

Post: Am I too picky (Turn-key house wanted)?

Patrick Shawn FahertyPosted
  • Fredericksburg, VA
  • Posts 190
  • Votes 64

I'll send you a PM Ali.