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All Forum Posts by: Elijah Householder

Elijah Householder has started 13 posts and replied 43 times.

Post: Single Family or House Hack?

Elijah HouseholderPosted
  • Corona, CA
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 12

Hello all,

Hope everyone is staying safe during these times! I am pretty new to the forum still so apologies if there is a better place for this post to go.

I am pretty early on in my investing journey and working to nail down my strategy for when I have the funds to purchase my first property. So here are my thoughts. I am saving to have about 70k-80k cash to put down. I have always thought I would house hack with a 2-3 unit property and put about 10%-15% down (hopefully value add to refi and get rid of PMI at some point). As of recent, I have been thinking I can put 20% down on a SFH and and just rent it straight out.

I know a lot of this comes down to the quality of the deal and your overall investment strategy long term. But I wanted to see if anyone has an opinion on which one might be better for a first time investor? I am 22 and am totally open to living in one of my units but am just wondering if SFH could be better?

Thank you in advanced! 

Best,

Elijah

Post: FHA vs. Coventional

Elijah HouseholderPosted
  • Corona, CA
  • Posts 43
  • Votes 12

Hello all,

Pretty new to the forum still so apologies if this is in the wrong spot. But I have a question about conventional mortgages vs FHA.

I am looking to “househack” within the next 1-2 years. I am a recent grad and saving enough to put around 10% on 2-3 unit property with a PP of around $400k-$600k (In Socal so dont have many cheaper options).

So my question is, is there any reason I should choose an FHA over conventional? I know FHA offers a 3.5% but aren't first time home buyers able to do a 3% with conventional? Plus PMI drops off unlike MIP for an FHA.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you!

Originally posted by @Lynn Dee Murrow:

You might want to check out opportunities to buy in other states too.

I am from So Cal but moved out because of the restrictions on property owners and they are getting worse not better. Be sure to read state and local landlord tenant laws. Before you buy understand restrictions on rent increases even for a new owner, missing this can foil your rehab plans. Rent control and eviction moratoriums that some lawmakers in California are trying to make long term if not permanent can be a problem and reduce income. Also check on source of income rules that may require you to participate in housing programs and be subject to their inspections and required repairs even when tenant caused. Check on your ability to screen residents too.

 Hey Lynn! Appreciate the response! 

Thank you for all this wonderful advice! These are things that I never even think about so I love hearing about it and will start researching right away. 


I have considered other states but as someone who is new to this game I believe it would make my first property a little easier if it was local for me. I am planning to manage it myself as well.

Thanks again!

Elijah

Originally posted by @Richard Young:

@Elijah Householder

Hey Elijah I grew up in Redlands. Just left a year ago and moved to Idaho. If your looking to get into lower priced homes in Redlands I would start looking in the 92374 zip code which will be on the north side of the 10frwy. In my opinion the lower income side of Redlands is still a pretty safe area. Personally I would rather be in the sketchiest part of Redlands over Riverside. The lowest priced homes(lower income area) will start north of The 10 and east of the 210 interchange increasing in price the farther North and East that you go. Good luck’.

Hey Richard! Thank you for the response! 

I super appreciate the advice and insight from someone who grew up there! Like I mentioned, I do not have much Redlands experience at all. Just whenever I have visited I like how it feels! 

I will start looking into those areas right away! 

Best,
Elijah

Originally posted by @Brandon Carlson:

Congrats @Elijah Householder for taking that next step in Real Estate investing. Similar to you, I read a ton of books about investing, and listened to BP podcast.

The areas your thinking of are great. I considered purchasing a multi-family in Redlands, but after some thinking, I may do Riverside. The location is ideal, and I'm a big proponent of purchasing near Universities. 

Good luck on whatever you decide. 

Thank you Brandon! I really appreciate all the encouragement. I know once the time comes it will be scary but excited to get my first deal done! 

Originally posted by @Chris Gawlik:

Hold off on buying for a few months and see what happens with covid. Not that I'm an expert with the economy, but just wait 6 or 7 months and see what happens. Just my opinion, but I am applying for equity lines and getting ready for a pretty bad recession. I know things are going nuts right now with housing, but its not going to last. Everything in the entire world will be effected by this soon. Once the banks start to sound the alarm bells people will start to realize that the stock market is going to take another big hit and the housing market will follow.

Bank of America Profit Falls 45% as it Prepares for Loan Default

Many investors think this is not the same kind of situation as the last downturn in 2008 but I disagree. I think things are headed for a crash soon. That's why I sold my primary house and pulled out the equity to get ready for the coming crash. You can read about that here. 

People Think Were Nuts 

To be fair I sold my home before covid even started, but I feel even more strongly about a looming crash soon.

 Hey Chris!

Thank you for the response. I am totally with you on that and really don't even have an option to invest earlier then about 1.5-2 years. I just started a solid w-2 job and like I mentioned I should have enough saved by that time to invest around 20% of what I am looking to purchase. I could probably do a 3.5% FHA but would like to avoid mortgage insurance if possible. Plus I have some high balance credit cards (0% interest luckily) but need to get those out of the way to improve my score.

I guess we will see what happens over these next few months though!

Thanks again,

Elijah

Originally posted by @Aaron K.:

@Elijah Householder actually I believe you can break into the nicer areas in Riverside for under $400k, you'll be looking at 1500 sqft SFRs but that is just fine.  In particular, Orangecrest, Woodcrest, and Sycamore Highlands.  Those properties don't come up all the time so you need to be patient, because there are only a few models in this price range.  I've actually done this just last year, so it is possible.  You might also include Mentone in your Redlands search as it uses most of the same services and can at times be a bit cheaper for the nicer homes.

Hey Aaron!

Thanks again for the response. I will definitely be checking out these areas. I have already started to check around on sites like Zillow and hopefully can start narrowing my search.

Thank you again for all the advice! 

Best,

Elijah

Originally posted by @Marlen Weber:

Love both of those cities. Best of luck to you. 

Thank you Marlen and awesome! Glad to hear some positivity about these spots!

Originally posted by @Tyler Hungerford:

Hey @Elijah Householder, this is a really great question! First and foremost, congratulations on graduating from school man! Where did you go to college? LSU? CBU? or UCR?

Having grown up in Riverside and currently living in Redlands, I can tell you that both are perfect markets to grow your rental portfolio. I love Riverside because of the economic opportunities that are continuing to grow and the diverse economy within this region. Riverside is the larger of the two cities and the neighborhoods vary a lot. Rental incomes however are very similar. Both regions are highly desirable and have a good mix of SFRs and Multi-family properties. I think for your first rental, you should consider going with a city you know well and in a neighborhood you would feel comfortable living in, especially if this is a househack situation. Both regions are going to offer similar price ranges for properties, so really it's just going to come down to personal preference! 

 Hey Tyler! Thank you for the response! I Just graduated from CBU with a marketing degree! Loved the experience but glad to be done! 

I have always enjoyed Riverside because I grew up right around the area. So I am comfortable with it and I believe it has great potential being that it is so close to Orange County, the mountains and even somewhat close to LA. The only thing that worries me is what I mentioned to Aaron. It seems like the lower priced areas in Riverside are not as nice and safe as Redlands. However, like I mentioned, this is pure speculation from my end. So I would love to hear your opinion since you have lived in both places!! I have never lived in or near Redlands. Only an occasional visit. 

Best,

Elijah

Originally posted by @Aaron K.:

@Elijah Householder Both are some of the better options in SoCal.  I don't know where you went to college but if that is all you saw of the city, you may well have missed some of the nicer areas, which believe it or not can actually make some of the better investment properties.  Redlands is a bit farther out but it is really nice for the most part, but you don't really get that OC influence to bump up prices a bit.

 Hey Aaron!

Thank you for the response! I do agree that Riverside has some beautiful areas! However, for the price range I am looking to purchase at ($300-$400k) I obviously wouldn't be able to break into these areas yet. Nor will I be able to, or expecting to be able to be in a "nicer" area in Redlands either. However, I feel the cheaper areas in Redlands could lend to a safer environment and potentially more stable tenants? This is pure speculation from me so I would love your opinion as someone who is experienced!