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All Forum Posts by: Ethan Au Green

Ethan Au Green has started 1 posts and replied 2 times.

Thanks y'all for the enlightening discussion. I think you helped me see that it's best to negotiate in good faith with the owner up front without the tax lien getting in the way. This is the first tax lien, and the property appears to have no other outstanding liens or mortgage. If I were able to negotiate a lease-to-own agreement with responsibility for paying future taxes, I could then still acquire the existing tax lien certificate after I sign the contract with the owner. But I think it would then still be the owner's responsibility to redeem the tax lien, not mine as the tenant. Are there any other examples in all of your experiences where a tenant / leasee possesses a tax lien certificate on the property? Have courts issued any rulings on the legitimacy and ramifications of this? Are there reasons why I should redeem the tax lien myself as the tenant instead of acquiring it?

Can a tax lien certificate holder use the lien as leverage to negotiate a favorable lease-to-own agreement with the owner?

I'm pursuing this kind of an opportunity in rural Colorado. The tax lien was recently sold on a 50 acre farm with several thousand mature fruit trees plus greenhouses, open fields and water rights. The residential buildings are all in shambles, but the farm itself is worth saving. Because the county has a random bidding process and sells the face value of the tax lien rather than auctioning it to the highest bidder, I was not able to bid on this property's tax lien. But I'm in touch with the holder of the tax lien certificate, who said he'll probably want to sell it to me for a small premium. 

After I get the tax lien certificate, I think I'll be in a great position to negotiate lease-to-own with the owner, who is in financial distress, has mental disabilities and no competency managing a productive farm, and honestly needs to get out of the situation for her own health and sanity. Is there anything legally or ethically to prevent me from acting on this plan? I'm not trying to rip off the owner or do anything unethical, I just want to use possession of the tax lien certificate as a foot in the door to seize control and save this gem of a farm before it completely goes under. I do have abundant experience in sustainable agriculture but I'm completely new to real estate investing and tax liens.