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All Forum Posts by: Evan Kline

Evan Kline has started 2 posts and replied 8 times.

Hi All - Thanks for your valuable feedback, there are lots of good takeaways for us to think about and it's encouraging to hear that it's certainly possible to perform this while abroad (albeit most likely a bit more complicated). One of the key points for us to think further about is the LLC vs. personal designation and what lending options are available for each so that we can make an informed decision.

In addition, I've appreciated the connects with several of you and will send DMs.

@Patrick Roberts - I'll DM you separately on this to share some background and discuss the merits of what we're trying to do.

Thanks again, Evan

Hi All –

Thanks in advance for your feedback. I'm researching DSCR financing options before moving forward within the next ~2-3 months on this. I've read some other posts on the topic, but wanted to start a separate one with a few specific questions.

Background:

  • - My partner and I own 2 properties with conventional financing, we have a Tenant in Common agreement between us
  • - Financing was only set-up under my partner’s name by mistake
  • - We are both US citizens; however I live abroad (receive a foreign salary) and file US taxes
  • - Good credit scores
  • - Both properties cash flow with PITIA ratios of ~ 1.2

We'd like to re-finance so that we are both on the financing and it seems that a DSCR loan would be a good option given that I live outside of the US.

Questions:

  • - Could we close a DSCR loan virtually or would we both need to be physically present for closing? (Virtual closing is preferred)
  • - Would we need to have an LLC to move these properties under a DSCR loan, or could my partner and I leave the properties in our names?
  • - Would a DSCR loan for Pennsylvania properties trigger title insurance? If the above is yes and we would need to pay for title insurance anyways, then I assume it would make sense to move these under an LLC
  • - Are you aware of any watch-outs or other considerations we should factor-into our decision?

Thanks again,
Evan

Post: Philadelphia Property Management Company

Evan KlinePosted
  • Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 5
Quote from @Eric Tullius:

@Evan Kline I have a great recommendation for you. Let’s connect for a call to talk details. 


 @ Eric - Thanks, I'll send you a DM to connect.

Post: Philadelphia Property Management Company

Evan KlinePosted
  • Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 5
Quote from @Alan Asriants:

Hey Evan, we cover the far northeast for property management if you are interested. Reach out anytime


 @ Alan - Thanks for your feedback, much appreciated.  Unfortunately, the units are not located in the far northeast, but I'll keep you in mind if the portfolio expands there.

Post: Philadelphia Property Management Company

Evan KlinePosted
  • Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 5
Quote from @Sheryl Sitman:

@Evan Kline I had to make my way through 4 PMs in Philly to get to one that truly serves my needs and bottom line. I have written a few posts about how to select a PM based on my experience in Philly and multiple markets. There is a delicate balance between looking out for you as the owner and creating a profitable management company -- knowledge/expertise, transparency and flexibility seems to be the key components to making it work.  Feel free to reach out.


 @ Sheryl and @ Kevin - Thanks both for your thoughtful advice and feedback.  I've sent you both DMs to connect on this topic.  Thanks in advance.

Post: Philadelphia Property Management Company

Evan KlinePosted
  • Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 5
Quote from @Irfan Raza:

The life cycle of finding a property management company is to usually find one for the cheapest price and realize that does not work for your needs and then find one that costs you less by providing better service and has a higher management fee. I have a couple recommendations in Philly based on your style of investing.


 @ Irfan - Thanks for your feedback, that about sums up my experiences so far and which is why I'm hoping to perform better due diligence this time around so I can find a PMC which better fits my situation.  I've just reached-out to connect and hear about any recommendations that you may have. 

Thanks, Evan

Post: Philadelphia Property Management Company

Evan KlinePosted
  • Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 5
Quote from @Michael Smythe:

@Evan Kline 

Recommend exploring as many sources as possible to get referrals AND cross-reference them to get as much accurate information as possible.

Check out NARPM.com, BP’s Property Manager Finder (BiggerPockets: The Real Estate Investing Social Network), etc.

Also, encourage you to learn from the mistakes of others - by reading posts here on BiggerPockets about owners not having their expectations met by their current Property Management Company.

To avoid going through the same poor experience, keep reading.

Even if someone gives you a referral here, do NOT make the mistake of assuming that the PMC will meet your expectations, just because they met the expectations of the referral source.

In our experience, the #1 mistake owners make when selecting a Property Management Company (PMC) is ASSUMING instead of CONFIRMING.

It's often a case of not doing enough research, as they don't know what they don't know!

Owners mistakenly ASSUME all PMCs offer the exact SAME SERVICES and PERFORM those services EXACTLY THE SAME WAY, so price is the only differentiator – so, they often select the first PMC they call or that calls them back!

So, the first question they usually ask a PMC is about fees - instead of asking about services and HOW those services are executed.

EXAMPLE: PMC states they will handle tenant screening – what does that specifically mean? What documents do they require, what credit scores do they allow, how do they verify previous rental history, etc.? You’d be shocked by how little actual screening many PMC’s do!

This also leads owners to ASSUME simpler is better when it comes to management contracts.

The reality is the opposite - if it's not in writing then the PMC doesn't have to provide the service or can charge extra for it!

A well written management contract should clearly spell out what is expected of both the PMC and the owner, to PROTECT both and avoid misunderstandings. Why do you think purchase contracts are so long and have such small print?

We recommend you get management contracts from several PMCs and compare the services they cover and, more importantly, what they each DO NOT cover.

EDUCATE YOURSELF - yes, it will take time, but will lead to a selection that better meets your expectations & avoids potentially costly surprises!

P.S. If you just hire the cheapest or first PMC you speak with and it turns into a bad experience, please don’t assume ALL PMC’s are bad and start trashing PMC’s in general. Take ownership of your mistake and learn to do the proper due diligence recommended above😊


 @ Michael - Many thanks for sharing this detailed list of watch-outs, there is a lot of useful information and considerations here.  I'll save and will refer back to this as I continue on the path for researching potential PMCs.

I currently have a PMC that I've worked with for the past ~4 years, but I admittedly did not perform sufficient due diligence up-front, so I want to do a better job this time around.

Thanks again, Evan

 

Post: Philadelphia Property Management Company

Evan KlinePosted
  • Investor
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 5

Hi - 

Thanks in advance for your feedback, I'm a first time poster.

I'm looking for a recommended property management company serving Philadelphia (north, west, northeast).  I saw a few dated posts on this topic, but wanted to re-open this topic and see if there were more recent / current recommendations.  Please let me know if you have any good management companies that I should consider.  

Thanks,

Evan