All Forum Posts by: Gerald L.
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Post: 90k loss Real estate & mortgage scam

- Los Angeles, CA
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Originally posted by @Jacqueline Carrington:
Wow, very sorry to hear. All people should be vetted prior to working with them even if family/friends. Get an attorney ASAP. Report the agent to the broker and then report the broker and agent to your state's real estate commission/consumer protection agency.
agreed 100%
Post: 90k loss Real estate & mortgage scam

- Los Angeles, CA
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Originally posted by @Wayne Brooks:
E & O insurance does Not cover fraud. HoweverI would certainly have your attorney look to the Broker, as it seems this guy has a history the broker should have been aware of.
As e & o doesn't cover fraud, any idea what grounds should the lawsuit be filed under?
Post: 90k loss Real estate & mortgage scam

- Los Angeles, CA
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Originally posted by @Linda Weygant:
What does your cousin's friend have to say about the whole thing? You know, the one who is Bill's nephew?
Makes me wonder if he doesn't feed marks to his uncle in exchange for a cut....
initially he said he would testify against his uncle and appeared to be helpful, but that momentum has died down.
Post: 90k loss Real estate & mortgage scam

- Los Angeles, CA
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Any Brokers on here know if the brokers insurance covers fraud or misappropriation of funds like this?
Post: 90k loss Real estate & mortgage scam

- Los Angeles, CA
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Originally posted by @Mary B.:
OUCH, Truly sorry to hear about this ordeal. Wow, I'm at a loss for words, smdh. Did your cousin file a police report and contact the California Real Estate Commission as well as Bill's broker? You can't let them get away with it without even trying to get justice.
Kudos,
Mary
A police report has been filed and the sergeant investigator seemed really eager to accept the case. The CAREC has not been contacted yet. The broker tried to distance himself from Bill as expected.
Post: 90k loss Real estate & mortgage scam

- Los Angeles, CA
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Originally posted by @Logan Hicks:
Capital One offers Escrow Service. I highly recommend it to you, and others, for future reference.
I think a valuable lesson here is to do due diligence on all parties and have advisors from outside the transaction.
Post: 90k loss Real estate & mortgage scam

- Los Angeles, CA
- Posts 50
- Votes 6
Originally posted by @Ryan Dossey:
I think you're going to want to go to:
Click that you are a consumer and want to file a complaint. I would do that as well as call them once you have done that and see what your options are.
http://www.dre.ca.gov/Consumers/ConsumerRecoveryAc...
^If you win they will typically go after the Broker/Individual to recover the money they had to pay you. This is why as a Realtor we do our 110% best to operate above board.
Ps: Still talk to an attorney as this is a legal matter dealing with a decent chunk of change.
We just read the consumer recovery account page, They only pay a maximum of 50,000 per transaction. And you have to win in court first. Seems like an lawyers going to be necessary regardless.
"In general, the requirements for payment from the Consumer Recovery Account include obtaining a final civil judgment or arbitration award, or a criminal restitution order against a licensee. The judgment, award or order must be based on intentional fraud or conversion of trust funds in connection with a transaction requiring a real estate license. The victim must make a reasonable search for the licensee's assets, and, if any, a reasonable effort to collect on the judgment, arbitration award or restitution order from those assets to satisfy the judgment."
Post: 90k loss Real estate & mortgage scam

- Los Angeles, CA
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Originally posted by @Russell Brazil:
Contact your state real estate commission. Most states have some sort of fraud fund to get you back at least part of your money. This situation has both criminal and civil consequences. The faster you act now though the better things will be.
I believe you're right the dre does have a victims fund. It is only utilized as a last resort after civil or criminal charges are handed out.
Post: 90k loss Real estate & mortgage scam

- Los Angeles, CA
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Originally posted by @Ryan Dossey:
I would go after the brokerage that held Bill's license.
how could you go after the brokerage?
Post: 90k loss Real estate & mortgage scam

- Los Angeles, CA
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My cousin got defrauded 90k. Ill make the story short.
My cousin Andy was looking at a property in California which he found back in Feb. It was going to be his first property. He needed an agent. So He contacted Bill, who is an agent who was an uncle of a close friend of his. He trusted Bill the way he trusted his friend. He thought Bill was going to be his mentor. BILL had him sign multiple agreements. -Offers. -agency agreements,-loan agreements. Once they executed the forms. Bill said they were in contract. Bill Had all the financing figured out and would need to fund escrow soon. So Andy funded the account 90,000 which was 20% down. Bill said they were in contract and just waiting for inspections. Months pass by and he asked bill why is the deal taking so long. Bill had excuse after excuse. Come June he googles the property and finds out it has been sold. And He ask bill about it. Bill says it was just a change of title between the investors of the property. Andy ask for the money back. Bill says it'll take 30 days. After they submit the cancellation contract. 30 days past and Bill still hasn't been able to produce the money.
We start investigating Bill and we discover, Bill never even made the offer. Setup a company along with bank accounts which the funds went into. No longer has money in that account. Has multiple bankruptcy, has a home(approx 950k) with numerous liens approx (700k), been in multiple lawsuits. Owes 200k in state sales tax from a previous business. Was with multiple brokerages in his real estate career. Was with a brokerage at the time.
My cousin is in some deep poop with his wife and our whole family. AS he did borrow some from us. They are going through a lot of stress.
Anyone been in a similar situation? Advice? Is this criminal or civil? Both? Any experience on this matter is helpful to our family.