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All Forum Posts by: Derek Simkins

Derek Simkins has started 7 posts and replied 24 times.

Post: HELP! Owner-Occupied Fix & Flip

Derek Simkins
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Asheville, NC
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 12
Quote from @Mitch Davidson:

@Jaron Walling and @Logan M.. His hurdle with using 203K, or even creative financing for the habitability repairs, is that the seller isn't entertaining offers that aren't cash and quick to close. @Derek Simkins, I asked a local PM friend about your need but his funds are lent at the moment. You can likely find some other sources through BP forums. Expect to pay 3-4 points and 15-20% interest. Also, another idea would be to get a bridge loan with a provider like Ribbon. 


 I appreciate you reaching out to your friend. Means a lot especially with moving to a new area. 

I'll have to look into a bridge loan. The deal has a bunch of meat on the bone, I can meet those terms.

Post: HELP! Owner-Occupied Fix & Flip

Derek Simkins
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Asheville, NC
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 12

If there any partners with $250K cash, I'm more than happy to talk numbers. I haven't had any luck so far. 

I have been trying to convince seller to wait for me to get the mortgage and have already started the process.

These are all really great ideas!

Post: HELP! Owner-Occupied Fix & Flip

Derek Simkins
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Asheville, NC
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 12
Quote from @Mitch Davidson:

@Derek Simkins. To add to the good advice above: If your seller wants a quick and easy sale a renovation loan is going to be quite the opposite experience from what they want. Meaning, it'll take you longer to close than a normal mortgage because you'll have to gather quotes from GC's and select the one you like before the lender can make any progress on things like appraising, underwriting, etc. Thus the process tends to take 30 days longer. If you're able to talk them into you using financing, Fannie Mae's Homestyle program (Conventional) is less of a pain to you and the contractor than 203(K). Also, you wouldn't be required to involve a real estate agent if you didn't want to.

Hard money lenders and most private money lenders won't help you with a primary residence because an enormous amount of laws and rules apply if they lend on a primary residence. It's not just about the fact that foreclosure becomes more difficult, it's also that there are tons of complex rules to comply with.

Perhaps buy it as an investment home, with private or hard money, so that you can close quickly. Maybe even borrow extra for some of the reno, perhaps just to make it habitable. Then after the work is done buy it from yourself and move in. Perhaps use Homestyle for the new loan, or otherwise a regular loan with a HELOC after.

Notice I didn't say refinance it after you take it down with private/hard money. That's because you'll have to wait at least 180 days from purchase to close on a refi, and 365 days if the refi will be a cashout (unless the lender liens one of your other homes instead...which is another option...take out a hard or private loan on one of your rentals). And to buy it from yourself, effectively, you'll need to buy in someone else's name. For example, you pull $300K from one of your rentals, your mother buys the home with the $300K, and you then use a mortgage to buy it from her. Alternatively, you can buy it from yourself, using Conventional, if the home is owned by an LLC and you're a minority owner.

Hope this helps some. Welcome to Asheville! Our next BP meetup is at 6PM at Hi-Wire Brewing on Lyman (in River Arts). It's casual, no RSVP, etc. We'd love to have you join us.


Thanks for your insight, Mitch! 

I think that may be the puzzle piece I was looking for.

Also, thank you for the warm welcome and I will definitely be at the BP meet ups! I look forward to meeting y'all

Post: HELP! Owner-Occupied Fix & Flip

Derek Simkins
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Asheville, NC
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 12

Thanks everyone for your input a suggestions!

I have tried a handful of residential hard money lenders but none of them want to do owner-occupied. My private money lender network is very small but the couple that I did contact said they were not interested before seeing the numbers.

Post: HELP! Owner-Occupied Fix & Flip

Derek Simkins
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Asheville, NC
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 12

I see the negative and why they wouldn't want to do that. On the other hand, I feel like there should be local investors that lend on these types of projects to better serve the community. 

You make a great point, the seller and I have built a great relationship and he really wants us to live there to continue his family's legacy. Maybe I'm over-thinking this whole situation and just need to convince him to wait a couple months for us to get financing. 

Post: HELP! Owner-Occupied Fix & Flip

Derek Simkins
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Asheville, NC
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 12

Thanks Scott! 

The property is not habitable right now but could be with about 20K. I can get the process on an FHA/203(k) loan started but the seller is ultimately wanting cash soon and wants to avoid seller/buyer agents.

What about owner-occupied flips makes a lender turn the other way, even with a high return for them and instant equity for me? Seems like a win-win 

Post: HELP! Owner-Occupied Fix & Flip

Derek Simkins
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Asheville, NC
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 12

I am badly wanting to get out of Tampa, FL and move to the greater Asheville area to be closer to family. I found an incredible deal with a high ROI but not a single lender wants to lend on it because it is going to be owner-occupied after the flip. I have a few properties in Tampa, FL with a considerable amount of equity and have offered those as collateral but still no luck. Local banks seem confused by my plan. Is there any other way to get cash/hard money for this deal without selling my portfolio?

Thanks in advance!

Post: Straight Forward House Hack Using the VA loan

Derek Simkins
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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Asheville, NC
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 12

That's exactly what I did! The only catch is you have to live in one of the units for a year when using VA, FHA, or primary residence conventional loans.

Thanks everyone! 

Post: Trying Out a Short-Term Rental for the First Time

Derek Simkins
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Asheville, NC
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 12

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $590,000
Cash invested: $52,000

- Plan to live in 1 unit for a year and turn the other 2 units into short-term rentals by 15 March 2023
- Currently under cosmetic renovation and stocking short-term rental necessities
- Projected Cash Flow first year: $299/mo
- Projected Cash Flow after 1 year: $1,549/mo
- Has a beautiful mural of cats on the front

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Y'all are not joking about it getting harder to get traditional lending as you get more properties. Luckily my lender was very knowledgeable and motivated. I learned so, so much about the financing and what it takes to start, not only 1, but 2 short-term rentals at the same time!

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

- Jeffery Nietupski, Real Estate Broker at Sunbay Real Estate
- Lucie Tighe, Short-term Property Management at Grand Welcome
- Tommy Whitehead, Florida Licensed Contractor\Renovation Management, REO\REIT Rehab, & Property Preservation Contractor at TomCo Solutions Inc
- Drake Beaulieu, VP of Mortgage Lending at Guaranteed Rate
- Frederic Llana, Licensed Insurance Agent at Goosehead Insurance Agency

Post: Straight Forward House Hack Using the VA loan

Derek Simkins
Posted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Asheville, NC
  • Posts 26
  • Votes 12

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment in Clearwater.

Purchase price: $285,000
Cash invested: $10,000

Solid duplex 10 minutes from Clearwater Beach.

Monthly Cash Flow: $349/mo

Lessons learned? Challenges?

A tree fell in the back yard and pulled the electric meter and all the wires off of the house and thank goodness it didn't hit the house! I learned how to deal with tenants in an emergency.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

- Real Estate Broker: Jeffery Nietupski
- Long-term Property Management: Jeremy Kloter