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All Forum Posts by: Jack B.

Jack B. has started 419 posts and replied 1844 times.

Post: Do you plan on eventually cashing out and moving away from real estate?

Jack B.Posted
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  • Seattle, WA
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Or have you? 

A woman I recently dated also has a rental portfolio and retired in her 30's. She met a lady in California who told her as you get older you won't want to deal with the hassle of tenants and rentals or PM's, and you'll want to sell like I did. I agreed with her and so did the girl I was dating for a few months at that time. 

So that begs the question, do any of you have an exit plan? Opportunity zones? 1031 into DST? What?

Post: Keep existing portfolio or keep growing it?

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Thing is, continuing to grow the portfolio is risky. Keeping what I have with all that equity in there currently is a lot less risky. What say ye?

Not that long ago my net worth hit 5 million. I don't own a hundreds and hundreds of properties, I just own more than a few but they are in an expensive market and I started buying well over a decade ago.

I could keep growing my portfolio or I can take the safer route and just keep what I have. I'm at the DSCR loan junction as I won't be able to grow without DSCR loans from here on out.

I first turned 1 into 2, that into 4, that into 8, you get the idea. I can keep doing that, I can turn that into 16, and 16 into 32. 

I would get into apartment complexes but only in cash as I don't like the risky loan terms of having to refinance every 5 years. Single family has been my bread and butter, why change a variable.

I've met a lot of people who retired with a handful of paid off or leveraged properties here in their mid thirties. (I'm early 40's). Two women I dated had  done that, and they were more concerned with enjoying life with what they had and not having to work than they were with growing their money. Mind you they drove luxury cars, etc. so it's not like they were wanting for anything...

While my initial goal might have been to retire early with this, I've kept cashing out and growing it, as I've started to enjoy the "game". But, managing what I have alone is fine. Managing 50 properties by myself would be a lot of hassle and I hate PM's. So it's a balance of hassle factor and wealth building. Where to find my balance?

Post: What are the risks of DSCR loans?

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I understand they have a little bit higher interest rate, but what are the risks of DSCR loans? Is there a demand clause where they can call the loans for no reason? My conventional loans don't have a demand clause. They can only call the loans due prematurity if I default.

I'm hesitant to give up my conventional loans on the next cash out refinance for DSCR loans. Thing is, I will need to go DSCR loans from here on out or just stop buying new real estate altogether.

Post: What are the risks of DSCR loans?

Jack B.Posted
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I understand they have a little bit higher interest rate, but what are the risks of DSCR loans? Is there a demand clause where they can call the loans for no reason? My conventional loans don't have a demand clause. They can only call the loans due prematurity if I default.

I'm hesitant to give up my conventional loans on the next cash out refinance for DSCR loans. Thing is, I will need to go DSCR loans from here on out or just stop buying new real estate altogether.

Post: Strategies with high interest rates

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Quote from @Vanessa Ursery:
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Quote from @Christopher Yager:

@John Morgan hello from Corpus Christi. I'm currently considering renting rooms out. Any drama issues with the tenants so far?Also can you recommend some vetting procedures for screening the tenants? Thanks


 Hey Christopher. 
mom an agent in the area, I have a few programs at my disposable for vetting tenants as an agent. I would suggest teaming up with one and just covering their cost. 

He can run the background check himself for $30 a tenant instead of paying a realtor more...just google tenant background search...I've used the same service for 14+ years


 That’s fine. To each their own. My systems even tell me speeding tickets nationwide. Different stokes for different folks. 


 As does every system...not that traffic tickets are relevant in tenant screening anyways.

Post: Strategies with high interest rates

Jack B.Posted
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Quote from @Vanessa Ursery:
Quote from @Christopher Yager:

@John Morgan hello from Corpus Christi. I'm currently considering renting rooms out. Any drama issues with the tenants so far?Also can you recommend some vetting procedures for screening the tenants? Thanks


 Hey Christopher. 
mom an agent in the area, I have a few programs at my disposable for vetting tenants as an agent. I would suggest teaming up with one and just covering their cost. 

He can run the background check himself for $30 a tenant instead of paying a realtor more...just google tenant background search...I've used the same service for 14+ years

Post: Is renting out a SFH by the room worth the extra money?

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Bump

Post: Thinking of buying two more rentals with larger DP to max out my conventional loans.

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Quote from @Marcus R.:

You're crushing it!  Don't really have much value to add and am more likely to learn from you...

What about only buying one more rental so 9 conventional loans?  So that way you have 1 conventional loan in your back pocket in case you need it and a great opportunity comes your way.

Check out the book Quit Like a Millionaire by Kristy Shen.  Lot's of good info about early retirement and tax optimization strategies.  A few chapters reference the Trinity Study and Monte Carlo simulations and provide good insights.  


Funny you mention that, I have thought about that before, that was my strategy initially, leave one conventional loan open just in case. But, since I'm about to quit my W2 and won't qualify for conventional as a result, I'll have to go the portfolio or DSCR route anyways. I might as well max out my conventional loans.

That sounds like an interesting book, thank you, I'll check it out!!

Post: Thinking of buying two more rentals with larger DP to max out my conventional loans.

Jack B.Posted
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  • Seattle, WA
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Quote from @Jay Hinrichs:
only issue i had with the 10 loans is it negatively affects fico.  which may not mean much for you.

I would stick to what you know..  Grass is not greener especially in the context of the Evergreen state.

 Why would it affect FICO? But yeah, won't mean much for me, I could buy these houses cash if I wanted to.

What do you mean grass is not greener, especially in the context of the Evergreen state? Are you saying the appreciation here is good?

Post: Thinking of buying two more rentals with larger DP to max out my conventional loans.

Jack B.Posted
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Quote from @Mike Dymski:

Sounds like a good plan.  Curious, what is your likely purchase price and rent ranges?


 475-500K. I bought two similar if not worse houses for 475 and 550K during the pandemic. The fact that these houses are available in an area well south of Seattle at this price still is an opportunity IMO. I put 400K down on both, so 40%, and when the rates drop eventually, these two properties along with my other ones skyrocket again. 

Beats losing the 400K in the stock market...It also allows me to maximize my 10 conventional loans while I have W2 income. Even if I do NOTHING else in life, I'll be set with these 10 properties in an appreciation market...