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All Forum Posts by: John C.

John C. has started 1 posts and replied 36 times.

Quote from @Michaela G.:

I did. had 20 or so properties, mostly duplexes, that I bought after the crash in a neighborhood that other investors were scared of. I could see the development coming and dealt with difficult, poor tenants. I always figured I'd sell in 5-10 years. 

Then the developments happened and the past few years I sold most for 10x what I had in them. sold my last house , my home, in march '23 and left the U.S. for good in April, so, I can travel.

Didn't want to pay Swift 3-5 percent to move my money to Europe, so, I transfered most into BTC (bought between 17 and 22k. Now it's 43k). I'm keeping it in that general asset class, which I don't think I'm allowed to mention.

2 weeks ago I was on a hot air balloon in Cappadocia. Last week I was gorilla trekking in Bwindi Impenetrable Forest in Uganda and right now I'm cat sitting in a Wildlife reserve in Tanzania.

I loved to renovate and that's what got me into real estate. I'm so glad I found it, as it allowed to bring out things from inside that I didn't know I had in me.  I never wanted to be a longterm landlord. People still ask me why I couldn't have just hired a manager and kept the rentals. Because I didn't want to.

I have no children. My money will go to various animal rescues and this is the first time in my life that I have no responsibilities. I set myself a budget of not spending more than $10k per month (I average half that as life is pretty cheap in some areas). I can do that for 20 years and then still have 7 figures left to settle down, if I want to.  No mortgage, no pets, no tenants.....and I'm enjoying the hell out of it,

What a great story! Thank you for that.  And I love that you are using your money to not only enjoy your life but also help animals.  

Congrats!  Well deserved!
Quote from @Jack B.:
Quote from @John C.:

We sold it all in 2019 and retired in our early 40s. Thought about 1031 but after a year couldn’t find anything that would cash flow as well as our units. Didn’t want to the hassle of maintenance or management. So we sold it all piece by piece, paid the taxes, and never looked back.  Also it completely freed us to be able to travel anytime anywhere for weeks at a time and ultimately months at a time.  

I know we had less on paper right after selling. But the stock market has been good and I think we made up most if not all of the $ lost to taxes in the last few years.   And probably from here on our networth will grow even faster than had we left it in RE.  The stock market does tend to grow much faster.  And no hassles.  

We bought some amount of dividend paying stocks and indexes that help to offset our previous cashflow.  

I initially thought I would keep the properties as a part time job forever.  But, once we had enough networth and dividends there was no more need to keep working.  

To each their own. We decided that enough was enough and left the field completely.  Never been happier or less stressed.  


 Thank you for this. This was largely the kind of response and perspective I was looking for by posting this thread. I'm in my early 40's as well, almost 42. I made nearly 6 million from my real estate investments and career, as far as net worth, only to watch it drop to 4 million due to the feds interest rates. Some of that has been from working a high paying nearly half a million dollar a year career.

But I've grown tired of WA politics, and idiot tenants as well as the Karens that neighbor some of my rentals. I worry about frivolous lawsuits. I envision a day where I live off dividend stocks I've been trying out such as JEPQ and JEPI. At 10% dividends from 200K invested, between that and nearly 50K in cashflow from my rental houses, as well as a paid off lake house (if I decide to pay it off and retire here) I could easily retire AND save money still. All the while I'd still have a cool mil in cash to put into VTSAX or VGT (but I've only ever lost money in the stock market so I'm a bit wary, right now I've been trying out the buy and hold strategy and riding out the 10% + drops the last year). Anyways, the idea is to keep growing my wealth that way. The carpet cleaner I hire for my rentals also used to have rentals, he sold them paid the taxes, bought a cleaning franchise and retired from his VP sales job. Said he's happier without the rentals and he made the money back in the stock market several fold. 

In any case, thank you for your candid response and sharing your numbers. It's refreshing to know I could theoretically pull the trigger, I've seen so many people do it with less money than me, by far. Yet here I am still grinding in Big Tech. That said the huge salary is nice and I am trying to make it to 45 (3 more years).


 Hi Jack. 
I don’t blame you for wanting to stick around another few years bc of your huge salary lol. But it’s nice to know you have a plan and a definite time line for calling it quits, isn’t it?  

Yeah a lot of us also just don’t know when to quit, when enough is enough. The golden handcuffs.  At least you have a cut off point in 3 years lol.  Good for you.  


congrats and good luck!! 

@Carlos Ptriawan


Oops, I see what you mean now.  Yeah we still have a primary, which is now the coop apt that we own.  And yes we plan to never sell that one, unless my wife wants a different apt.  So, no, probably never renting.  


@Carlos Ptriawan


Yes I agree with your rental numbers.  Sometimes it’s way cheaper to rent and invest the savings, which would usually grow much faster and be completely passive.  There’s no shame to renting, as long you’re investing the savings.  It’s all about getting to that number as soon as we can, right?  Renting cheaply is just another way toward that goal:)

@K S

My situation was a bit more complicated.  I had access to both a 401 and a 457, amongst a couple other retirement accounts.  No matching.  1 account I did for 22 years and the other for about 12.  Those 2 ended up at around $1.4M when I retired 5 years ago.  The smaller accounts brought me up to about $2M.  My wife did her 401 for 19 years and ended up at almost $1M.  She had matching.  So between the 2 of us we had $3M in our retirement accounts.  now around $4M.  So yeah, if we need to it would easily cover our living expenses even though we’re 11 years shy of 59.5.  



@Carlos Ptriawan

Not renting.  You own coop apts :)


You pay maintenance each month like a condo owner pays the common charges. But the maintenance is all inclusive.  Has, heat, water, taxes etc.  the only other bill we pay is for internet.  2 bills per month :)

Quote from @Carlos Ptriawan:
Quote from @John C.:

We sold it all in 2019 and retired in our early 40s. Thought about 1031 but after a year couldn’t find anything that would cash flow as well as our units. Didn’t want to the hassle of maintenance or management. So we sold it all piece by piece, paid the taxes, and never looked back.  Also it completely freed us to be able to travel anytime anywhere for weeks at a time and ultimately months at a time.  

I know we had less on paper right after selling. But the stock market has been good and I think we made up most if not all of the $ lost to taxes in the last few years.   And probably from here on our networth will grow even faster than had we left it in RE.  The stock market does tend to grow much faster.  And no hassles.  

We bought some amount of dividend paying stocks and indexes that help to offset our previous cashflow.  

I initially thought I would keep the properties as a part time job forever.  But, once we had enough networth and dividends there was no more need to keep working.  

To each their own. We decided that enough was enough and left the field completely.  Never been happier or less stressed.  


Like the story , smart decision

But I guess you don’t end up selling your primary  

Thanks !
we actually did sell our primary home, a SFH, and moved into a coop apt lol. Totally maintenance free. No more shoveling snow, raking leaves, etc. And the apt cost 1/2 of the house. So we were able to bank that as well. So now we just lock the apt door and go off wherever we want without worrying about security, maintenance, etc. Total freedom :)

Quote from @Joe S.:
Quote from @John C.:

We sold it all in 2019 and retired in our early 40s. Thought about 1031 but after a year couldn’t find anything that would cash flow as well as our units. Didn’t want to the hassle of maintenance or management. So we sold it all piece by piece, paid the taxes, and never looked back.  Also it completely freed us to be able to travel anytime anywhere for weeks at a time and ultimately months at a time.  

I know we had less on paper right after selling. But the stock market has been good and I think we made up most if not all of the $ lost to taxes in the last few years.   And probably from here on our networth will grow even faster than had we left it in RE.  The stock market does tend to grow much faster.  And no hassles.  

We bought some amount of dividend paying stocks and indexes that help to offset our previous cashflow.  

I initially thought I would keep the properties as a part time job forever.  But, once we had enough networth and dividends there was no more need to keep working.  

To each their own. We decided that enough was enough and left the field completely.  Never been happier or less stressed.  

What size Portfolio did you sell? What kind of amounts did you invest in stocks to live happily ever after?

A few mil.  Took home a couple mil.  plus I have a pension that pays for all our basic living expenses.  So, whatever dividends we get we spend on luxuries and vacations.  And we each have our own 401Ks that we maxed out each year for about 20 years.

But theoretically, $2M in stocks alone should produce more than enough between growth and divs to pay our living expenses if I didn’t have a pension.  

We sold it all in 2019 and retired in our early 40s. Thought about 1031 but after a year couldn’t find anything that would cash flow as well as our units. Didn’t want to the hassle of maintenance or management. So we sold it all piece by piece, paid the taxes, and never looked back.  Also it completely freed us to be able to travel anytime anywhere for weeks at a time and ultimately months at a time.  

I know we had less on paper right after selling. But the stock market has been good and I think we made up most if not all of the $ lost to taxes in the last few years.   And probably from here on our networth will grow even faster than had we left it in RE.  The stock market does tend to grow much faster.  And no hassles.  

We bought some amount of dividend paying stocks and indexes that help to offset our previous cashflow.  

I initially thought I would keep the properties as a part time job forever.  But, once we had enough networth and dividends there was no more need to keep working.  

To each their own. We decided that enough was enough and left the field completely.  Never been happier or less stressed.  

Post: Beat my 10 Year goal in 1.5!!! :D

John C.Posted
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awesome!

Congrats!