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All Forum Posts by: James Zettelmeyer

James Zettelmeyer has started 7 posts and replied 28 times.

You have to be a bit careful on that as the last thing you need is for the lender to find out after the refi and think that you never planned to stay as your primary residence.  I did a loan for a client two years ago that I had done 4 previous loans for.  The last loan i did for him was for a house as his primary.  He put 5% down and we closed the loan.  About 7 months later I got an email from my lender stating that the servicer for that loan, who was Wells Fargo, had gotten a loan application request from the same borrower at their local branch to buy an investment property and it listed his previous address as his current primary residence, not the one that I had just done the loan on 7 months before.  Obviously they wanted to find out if he committed fraud on the previous house by saying he was buying as his primary when he actually wasn't.  Truth is he DID intend to buy as his primary, because 2 months after we closed he called asking if he could get a construction loan for a $300k addition on that home which wasn't really possible given that the end value of the house just wasn't there.  Never heard from him after that point, so when I got that email it was obvious that he realized the house wasn't worth the addition and just decided to rent it out and never actually lived there.  The crazy thing is that prior to that loan, i financed a house that he bought as new primary about one year prior to that, where he did actually live.  So when we did the loan that Wells was questioning, one of the underwriters conditions was a REALLY GOOD explanation as to why he was buying another primary residence that was literally less than one mile away from his current residence, which he also just happened to buy less than a year ago.  We did have a good reason for it, so we were able to get the loan done.  The guy was an honest guy, its just that his business was growing exponentially and from the first day that I started working with him, he always talked about getting his mansion.  I believe that was the original plan with that house, but he realized after the fact that it wasnt the right house for it.  So I wrote a long letter to Wells explaining why I believed it wasn't intentional and they ultimately backed off. 

My suggestion would be to wait at least 6 months, or a preferably a year after you close on the refi before you start looking for another home. 1 year is kind the general rule, especially with FHA, although if you had to move because of a job or something that's obviously different. 6 months you might still be ok, but if you are planning on doing this 6 or 7 times, then you are probably asking for trouble. If that is your plan then I wouldn't be surprised if a lender or servicer eventually caught wind of it and realized that you had bought 6 or 7 primary residences over the past 3 or 4 years and considered that the same as lying upfront. That's just my two cents though...

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James Zettelmeyer, Lender

234-334-5414

Message sent.  Thanks again!

Riverview Mortgage Corp. is a family owned business providing not only your standard conventional mortgage products, but also our own in-house portfolio products for real estate investors looking for a better option than some of the other well known lenders. We understand how frustrating and expensive the portfolio lending market can be as we were also once subjected to the options that were available, which is to say were not great at best. That is why we decided to develop our own in-house products to provide high quality service and affordable financing, as well as

LTV's and minimum loan amounts that are much more practical to the everyday investor. We provide a common sense approach to underwriting and will not give our clients the run around that is so common in this industry. If you are looking for one of the easiest and most affordable portfolio lending options around, then you have come to the right place! Check out our products below, visit our website or contact us directly for more information. At Riverview Mortgage Corp, our family is here to help yours!
  • PORTFOLIO PRODUCTS

    30yr & 15yr Fixed Rate, 3/3 ARM, 5/5 ARM

  • Rates as low as 6.25%
  • Up to 80% LTV on Purchases
  • Up to 65% LTV on Cash Out Refi's
  • Up to 75% LTV on Rate/Term Refi's
  • $25k minimum loan amounts!!
  • AT THIS TIME, WE ARE ONLY SERVING THE STATE OF OHIO. BUT OTHER STATES SOON TO FOLLOW IN 2018.

    NMLS: 1642779

Post: Hard money fees please help

James ZettelmeyerPosted
  • Akron, OH
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 12

Just out of curiosity, were your monthly payments made directly to the lender?  Or was the attorney acting as the servicer and you were paying the attorney? 

Correct on everything above, ill just break it down a little further.  At the top of the food chain is your Fannie/Freddie product which basically has the highest standards, but the lowest costs and rates.  Next step down would be your local banks portfolio products which are usually modelled after Fannie/Freddie, but are willing to make some concessions if you are strong enough.  Credit and cash tend to help a lot, especially with local banks because if they can take cash deposit accounts away from their competitors, they will tend to try and be more flexible.  This will be a slightly more expensive option with slightly higher rates but a potentially very good one if you can build a good relationship.  Then you have the whole sale portfolio market where they will do no doc, no asset, no income verification etc., but comes at an even higher cost.  Most of those guys charge 2-3 points and you'll land anywhere from 6-10% with both ARMS and Fixed.  Lastly, you have the Private/Hard Money lenders which are generally short term financing, 6-24 months, interest only.  You'll pay anywhere from 10-18 percent and roughly 2-5 points or so.  Any one of those 4 options could either the best decision you ever made or the worst, just depends on you and your specific situation.  Oddly enough, the Fannie/Freddie option is the least "relationship" based as everyone of your files has to be underwritten to the same rules with no exceptions given due to good performance on prior deals.  The other three options allow you the ability to develop a relationship and build on that....

Rates have gone up quite a bit over the last couple of months. The standard Fannie Freddie rate adjustments are much higher on a cash out, NOO than most other types of deals. 6 months ago you'd probably be at around 4.25, give or take. 5% is about right although you may be able to get an .125 to .25 off depending on where you go but you wont get much more than that. Good luck!

Riverview Mortgage Corp. is a family owned business providing not only your standard conventional mortgage products, but also our own in-house portfolio products for real estate investors looking for a better option than some of the other well known lenders. We understand how frustrating and expensive the portfolio lending market can be as we were also once subjected to the options that were available, which is to say were not great at best. That is why we decided to develop our own in-house products to provide high quality service and affordable financing, as well as LTV's and minimum loan amounts that are much more practical to the everyday investor. We provide a common sense approach to underwriting and will not give our clients the run around that is so common in this industry. If you are looking for one of the easiest and most affordable portfolio lending options around, then you have come to the right place! Check out our products below, visit our website or contact us directly for more information. At Riverview Mortgage Corp, our family is here to help yours!

PORTFOLIO PRODUCTS

30yr & 15yr Fixed Rate, 3/3 ARM, 5/5 ARM

  • Rates as low as 6.25%
  • Up to 80% LTV on Purchases
  • Up to 65% LTV on Cash Out Refi's
  • Up to 75% LTV on Rate/Term Refi's
  • $25k minimum loan amounts!!
  • AT THIS TIME, WE ARE ONLY SERVING THE STATE OF OHIO.  BUT OTHER STATES SOON TO FOLLOW IN 2018.

    NMLS: 1642779