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All Forum Posts by: Jeremy Dugan

Jeremy Dugan has started 4 posts and replied 8 times.

Post: We did it! 4-Unit Building

Jeremy Dugan
#1 Multi-Family and Apartment Investing Contributor
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  • New to Real Estate
  • Springfield, MA
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 10
Quote from @Kerlous Tadres:

Going forward, focus on building good relationships with your tenants. Happy tenants lead to longer leases and fewer headaches. For property improvements, small updates like new paint, better lighting, and improved curb appeal can help increase rents over time. As you settle in, consider using refinancing options to leverage equity for future investments.

Since you're thinking about retirement in a few years, focus on scaling your portfolio gradually, and always keep an eye out for new off-market deals. Networking and staying active in the investing community can also open doors for new opportunities.


Kerlous, thank you for your advice! We really want to be reliable landlords and property owners. We are power washing the exterior and porch (and staining it), fixing gutter downspouts, removing trash from the property, putting up exterior lights and security cameras, getting lead certifications, etc. 
For our next purchase, we will have to get creative (partner, seller financing, etc.). We will probably become curious for our next move in about 6 months and will continue building relationships and networking in our community. It's definitely an exciting time!

Post: We did it! 4-Unit Building

Jeremy Dugan
#1 Multi-Family and Apartment Investing Contributor
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  • New to Real Estate
  • Springfield, MA
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 10
Quote from @Greg Kasmer:

@Jeremy Dugan - Congratulations! Big first step to take down a quad with your first purchase! What are your plans with the property? Any ways you're going to renovate/add value? Also, curious to see how your agent had the inside edge on a good off-market deal? Sounds like a great agent! Good Luck!


 Great questions! Our plan is to turn one of the units that had a long-time tenant in it who recently passed away :-(

We also will rent out the unit that is ready.

For now, just focusing on general maintenance and upkeep.

We got a good price for this property so if we keep the units where they are now, we should be able to turn a profit considering all expenses and savings (maintenance, capex, etc)

I believe this deal was created on the golf course, actually! So, just pure networking and for us being in the market at the right time!

Post: New Investors in Western Mass

Jeremy Dugan
#1 Multi-Family and Apartment Investing Contributor
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  • New to Real Estate
  • Springfield, MA
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 10

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment in Pitcher.

Purchase price: $425,000

Two 1-bedroom/1-bath
Two 3-bedroom/1-bath

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Next phase of life after military

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Off-Market. No negotiation, seller was priced way under market.

How did you finance this deal?

DP: HELOC
Rest: Conventional Residential

How did you add value to the deal?

1 unit vacant will be brought to market rate.
1 unit, illegal tenant, will be evicted and whole unit upgrade and brought to rent.

What was the outcome?

TBD

Lessons learned? Challenges?

None yet. Still learning the lessons.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Yes.
The Merrill Group of Naples Realty in Agawam, MA
Mike Rogers of Fairway Mortgage in Suffield, CT

Post: We did it! 4-Unit Building

Jeremy Dugan
#1 Multi-Family and Apartment Investing Contributor
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  • New to Real Estate
  • Springfield, MA
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 10

I just have to share that in 120 days, my wife and I went from agreeing to pursue real estate investing to closing on a 4-unit multi-family property!

We worked with a great agent who found us an off-market opportunity and we pounced on it. 

Disclaimer...we found out 1-week prior to closing that we have an illegal tenant, but we were able to serve him on 4/30 (same day as closing).

I spent most of Friday attending to tenant issues and lining up work around the property. They seemed very pleased with my presence and willingness to improve their units. 

Overall, we are full of hope, as this is my post-military career path as I think about retiring in the next 2-5 years. 

Can't wait to see what the next 6 months brings!

Post: Deal Structure/Analysis: Seller Financing Option vs Commercial Loan

Jeremy Dugan
#1 Multi-Family and Apartment Investing Contributor
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  • New to Real Estate
  • Springfield, MA
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 10
Quote from @Jaycee Greene:
Quote from @Jeremy Dugan:

Good morning BP,

I am working with a potential off-market seller who wants to off-load their converted motel (8-units, 1 is the motel office that can be commercial space) as they retire. I've received their rent roles (4,760/mth) but believe that the market value is about $6,600 to $8,100/month. The Commercial Loan Officer I am working with comes up with a Loan Amount of $336,000 (Total value is $448,000) because of the low rents. I also have their expenses which are in line with my estimates/analysis.

I do not believe the Seller's will like that valuation and I know they are hiring an appraiser. Also, I believe they own this property out-right, no loans, etc.

I'd like to structure a deal where they provide seller's financing with a 2-3 year off-load timeline that gives them a) some cash now via a down payment and b) some regular monthly income all while I work to bring rents to market value and we both benefit on the sale and refi.

How would something like that work and what would it look like? Very much appreciate any advice or recommendations on how to approach this conversation/negotiation.

Hey @Jeremy Dugan, welcome to the BP Forum! Looks like you've already outlined most of the way something like that would work. One thing that I would add is your plan to refinance the property once the sellers note matures and that's when you'd pay them the rest of the purchase price through a cash out of the higher valued property. Happy to answer any other questions you have.

On the exit strategy for seller financing, say the deal was Property Value: $450K, DP: $80K, Loan $370K. Over 3 years, I make interest only payments to seller, but raise market rents and it assesses at $650K. Could I get an 80% LTV Cash-Out Refi ($520K), pay off the $37OK, and pocket the difference ($150K)? Is that how it would work?
[In my scenario below, I was thinking about a share of the equity upon refi (what @Jack Pasmore called "the kicker" or share of the upside) since I don't think the seller would agree the property values at only $450K, even though that's what the rent and NOI say]

Post: Deal Structure/Analysis: Seller Financing Option vs Commercial Loan

Jeremy Dugan
#1 Multi-Family and Apartment Investing Contributor
Posted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Springfield, MA
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 10
Quote from @Jaycee Greene:
Quote from @Jeremy Dugan:

Good morning BP,

I am working with a potential off-market seller who wants to off-load their converted motel (8-units, 1 is the motel office that can be commercial space) as they retire. I've received their rent roles (4,760/mth) but believe that the market value is about $6,600 to $8,100/month. The Commercial Loan Officer I am working with comes up with a Loan Amount of $336,000 (Total value is $448,000) because of the low rents. I also have their expenses which are in line with my estimates/analysis.

I do not believe the Seller's will like that valuation and I know they are hiring an appraiser. Also, I believe they own this property out-right, no loans, etc.

I'd like to structure a deal where they provide seller's financing with a 2-3 year off-load timeline that gives them a) some cash now via a down payment and b) some regular monthly income all while I work to bring rents to market value and we both benefit on the sale and refi.

How would something like that work and what would it look like? Very much appreciate any advice or recommendations on how to approach this conversation/negotiation.

Hey @Jeremy Dugan, welcome to the BP Forum! Looks like you've already outlined most of the way something like that would work. One thing that I would add is your plan to refinance the property once the sellers note matures and that's when you'd pay them the rest of the purchase price through a cash out of the higher valued property. Happy to answer any other questions you have.

So, would the seller financing deal be based on the current value & rent roll or the future?
Say we structure the financing at $448K with 25% Down. Loan Amount is $336 and after 3 years the principal is $324K. In those 3 years, I've brought the Rent Roll up to $7,000/mth and it gets appraised for $700K. Those are favorable numbers for me...

Or do we do the financing based on the $700K future valuation, but with a smaller down payment of $100K (15%)?

Or...could we do a deal where we finance it now on the current valuation...they get a DP (say $100K) and a regular mortgage payment (say $2,500/mth = $90K over 3 years) and they get a portion of the cash on the equity when I refi in 3 years (say 30% or an additional $90K) plus the remaining principal ($324K). They'd get $100K (DP) + $324K (Remaining Principal) + $90K (Payments) + $90K (Equity Cash) = $604K. Do deals work this way?

Or am I missing something and completely off base?

Post: Deal Structure/Analysis: Seller Financing Option vs Commercial Loan

Jeremy Dugan
#1 Multi-Family and Apartment Investing Contributor
Posted
  • New to Real Estate
  • Springfield, MA
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 10

Good morning BP,

I am working with a potential off-market seller who wants to off-load their converted motel (8-units, 1 is the motel office that can be commercial space) as they retire. I've received their rent roles (4,760/mth) but believe that the market value is about $6,600 to $8,100/month. The Commercial Loan Officer I am working with comes up with a Loan Amount of $336,000 (Total value is $448,000) because of the low rents. I also have their expenses which are in line with my estimates/analysis.

I do not believe the Seller's will like that valuation and I know they are hiring an appraiser. Also, I believe they own this property out-right, no loans, etc.

I'd like to structure a deal where they provide seller's financing with a 2-3 year off-load timeline that gives them a) some cash now via a down payment and b) some regular monthly income all while I work to bring rents to market value and we both benefit on the sale and refi.

How would something like that work and what would it look like? Very much appreciate any advice or recommendations on how to approach this conversation/negotiation.

Post: Apsiring RE Investor // Western, MA & Northern, CT

Jeremy Dugan
#1 Multi-Family and Apartment Investing Contributor
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I am a US Air Force and Massachusetts Air National Guard veteran with 20-years of experience as a military Civil Engineer. In previous roles, I was responsible for the asset management, capital improvement, repair, and maintenance of an ANG Fighter Base worth over $400M. I'm an experienced project manager with hundreds of cradle-to-grave efforts under my belt, including building project scopes and budgets, evaluating contract proposals, and managing construction to maintain the delivery of high quality products on-time and in budget.

Penny is a licensed clinical social worker (LCSW), serving the community mental health needs of parents, children and families.

We both recognize we have an immense opportunity to serve our community and want to capitalize on the blessings we have been provided so that we can continue serving our neighbors.

My wife, Penny, and I are looking to transition into commercial multi-family real estate in 2025. By 2030, we want to have grown a portfolio of over 100 units, created a property management company that manages an additional 100-200 units, and, finally (and most importantly), we will have established a non-profit that is focused on quality, affordable housing that specializes in providing housing and resources at/on the "services cliff" alongside financial counseling and first-time home buyer education in our target area.

Our target area is the Springfield, MA and Hartford, CT areas with dreams to expand to Central Massachusetts (Worcester, MA), Southern New Hampshire (Nashua, NH), and Southern Connecticut (New Haven, CT).

Would love to meet up with likeminded individuals in our area!

Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays all!

Jeremy