All Forum Posts by: Jon Lester

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $140,000

I purchased this duplex with cash. It had existing tenants who were under market rent and both units needed some TLC. We got one unit up to market rent with no additional out-of-pocket costs for the tenant. The other unit the tenant was ready to move out, so we helped him find a new place for him and his family, then renovated the unit and rented it out at market rent. Now it's refinanced and cash flows, and we have a strong asset that we were able to pull 100% of our initial cash out.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

I like the neighborhood and saw this as a great opportunity to own a strong asset in it.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

This deal was brought to me through another wholesaler.

How did you finance this deal?

We used cash for the purchase and repairs, then refinanced to pull 100% of our cash out.

How did you add value to the deal?

We worked with section 8 to increase rents in one unit, did some light renovations in that unit, and some additional renovations to the other.

What was the outcome?

Both units rented at market rent and zero dollars cash left in the deal.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

I would probably be more likely to buy vacant properties going forward, but if I find a strong deal with existing tenants, I would discuss rent increases prior to closing.

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $140,000

I purchased this duplex with cash. It had existing tenants who were grossly under market rent and both units needed some TLC. We got one unit up to market rent within 3 months with no additional out-of-pocket costs for the section 8 tenant. The other unit the tenant was ready to move out, so we helped him find a new place for him and his family, then renovated the unit and rented it out at market rent. Now it's refinanced and cash flows, and we have a strong asset that we were able to pull 100% of our initial cash out.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

I like the neighborhood and saw this as a great opportunity to own a strong asset in it.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

This deal was brought to me through another wholesaler.

How did you finance this deal?

We used cash for the purchase and repairs, then refinanced to pull 100% of our cash out.

How did you add value to the deal?

We worked with section 8 to increase rents in one unit, did some light renovations in that unit, and some additional renovations to the other.

What was the outcome?

Both units rented at market rent and zero dollars cash left in the deal.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

I would probably be more likely to buy vacant properties going forward, but if I find a strong deal with existing tenants, I would discuss rent increases prior to closing.

Investment Info:

Single-family residence other investment.

Purchase price: $74,500
Cash invested: $25,000
Sale price: $140,000

I bought this house to do a traditional fix-and-flip and then market slowed down hard in New Orleans. We decided to get creative and sell it on Bond for Deed with a 10% down payment and all monthly expenses covered by the buyer.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

The sellers wanted quick cash to purchase a new condo unit in an assisted living facility and I was able to help them hit their goal and deadline.

How did you finance this deal?

Hard-money + my own cash for the purchase and repairs, then refinanced through the same hard money lender in first position.

How did you add value to the deal?

Installed HVAC, replaced flooring, windows, and some cosmetic upgrades. Painted myself to save some money.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

I learned to better price my repair budgets after having to do a few things myself to save money.

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment in New Orleans.

Purchase price: $250,000

I worked with a buyer that I met here on Bigger Pockets and connected her with a deal in New Orleans on a 4-plex. She's owner-occupying one unit (house hacking), and renting out the other 3. All 3 other units are government subsidized at 125% market rent, and she's able to cash-flow the deal, even at current interest rates.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

Cash flow and appreciation.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Off-market channels before it hit the MLS, so we were able to make the first offer.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

I am the agent who found and negotiated this deal.

 It's the approximation sign, but I definitely see how that could easily get overlooked as a minus sign.  No worries at all.  Thanks for the positive feedback!

 Where are you seeing losses?  It's cash-flowing $423 per month as-is, and one of the rents just got approved to increase on December 1st, 2023.

 Check out this post and let me know if you're interested.

https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/517/topics/1146828-cash...

I'm part of a group with GCs.  Shoot me a text when you get a minute.  504.380.2686

Thanks

Hi all,

I have an off-market deal in New Orleans that is currently cash-flowing ~$423 per month.  It's a 4-plex that's fully occupied with 4 reliable, section 8 renters.  The property itself was renovated in 2018.  

Rent increases in New Orleans, year-over-year, so it will only continue to increase.  And when insurance prices drop in the next couple of months, your monthly returns will increase significantly.

Current monthly expenses = $5,164.89

Current rental income = $5,588.00

Cash flow = $423.11

Contact me for more details and a full breakdown of the costs.

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