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All Forum Posts by: Jonathan R.

Jonathan R. has started 13 posts and replied 568 times.

Post: Bitcoin is 10k again what are you going to do now?

Jonathan R.Posted
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Here is how cryptocurrency can change real estate. What if many investors can go in on a rental property with cryptocurrency and rather than have to sell the property to get your investment back you can sell your percentage stake for more cryptocurrency. There is no reason to formalize all the paperwork because the cryptocurrency uses a recorded ledger. 

Post: Bitcoin is 10k again what are you going to do now?

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Originally posted by @Matt R.:
Originally posted by @Bob Anderson:

Blockchain technology will slowly revolutionize the financial industry.  However there is nothing unique or special about bitcoin.  The only reason that it is the most expensive, is because it was the first coin and the one that people are most familiar about.  As a coin itself, bitcoin is beyond terrible.  The underlying code is garbage compared to other coins.  This is because of the memory size for transactions and the way fees are calculated.  Transactions are 'validated' by miners with powerful computers designed specifically for bitcoin.  But because there is limited space on the blockchain to validate transactions, there exists a backlog of trades waiting to be executed because the trade can't be validated.  The process is not a first come first served process, but rather who is willing to pay the highest fee.  While trades are done relatively quickly today, and therefor the average transaction fee hovers around $2 per exchange, a few months back when bitcoin was all the rage there were too many trades for the system to handle which pushed the average transaction cost close to $40 per trade.  KFC Canada accepts bitcoin, but can you imagine trying to pay for your $5 bucket of wings only to find out that you actually paid $45?  The more popular bitcoin gets, the less functional it is, and therefor it will never catch on.  There is nothing proprietary about blockchain technology.  People can (and do) create new coins all the time.  Eventually one of the big banks, will create a decent coin and due to the influence of the institution backing the coin, it will become the new standard and replace bitcoin as the king of crypto.  

 Idk jack squat about blockchain code. It is my understanding one of bitcoins competitive advantage is the security in the transaction and or if one was to send a large amount they would likely only use bitcoin to send that. I could be wrong on that too.  

 It’s competitive advantage is it was the first to market. It’s got the branding. It started it all. People believe if it fails it all fails. It was the first big fu to our worldwide broken financial system. It looks cool on a t-shirt.

It is slated to be a store of value in the industry, the digital gold with utility.

Post: Bitcoin is 10k again what are you going to do now?

Jonathan R.Posted
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Originally posted by @Bryan Devitt:
Originally posted by @Jonathan R.:

Will it perform like digital gold? That is the question. Someone mentioned in a previous post- what will happen to it when the economy pulls back? Will people be rushing into Bitcoin, or will they be selling their Bitcoin to have some cash? Or both. Physical gold is hard to beat when it comes to the level of security people feel when they own it during a crisis, at least for now.

For the record, I have a Coinbase account and have been in and out of crypto over the last couple years. Now is probably not the time to fomo (fear of missing out) into Bitcoin, wait for a pullback. There have been many pullbacks, there will be many more. Buying at year long highs right now is dumb. I like @Dave DeMarco approach of staggering in every few weeks, but right now the space seems more like trading than long term investing, at least with any meaningful amount of money. Right now if you have money in I’d ride it, when the next disaster is announced I’d take money off the table, when it stabilizes near what you think is a bottom get back in, if another disaster is announced sell and take a small loss, rinse and repeat. You have to keep your eye on the total market cap and compare that to news that is being announced in real time, it can be exhausting. It’s a very small asset class right now for any feeling of safety. It may get big or stay small for a long time... I for one can’t wait to see how the next financial crisis (which I think is coming fairly soon) impacts the Bitcoin/crypto market.

@Jay Hinrichs yes, you are supposed to pay taxes on gains, though it’s like the wild Wild West. How hard is it to determine where you are at when you sell one crypto and move into another, then sell that one and move into another and another. Coinbase (the major US crypto exchange) did send some kind of notice to me but I don’t think it was very specific. And I don’t know whether I’m up or down to be able to report properly... lol.

PS it does appear there is a trend that many are turning into what is called a Bitcoin maximalist, meaning Bitcoin is the big dog crypto and all or most of your investment in the space should be in Bitcoin. Though I do also like the platform crypto’s like Etherium, Stellar Lumens, etc. They allow other crypto currencies to build and launch on their platform (like Facebook in that businesses build their businesses on Facebook). You want to learn what you can about what you are buying, just like you would any other investment.

 Bitcoin cheerleaders claim it is replacing gold, but it moves in the opposite direction. Gold has value for many reasons, it is useful and (kinda) rare and for ages everyone has decided that it has value. People claiming that it is rare and controlled, therefore it is valuable can go collect Beanie Babies again and tell us how it works out. Things only have value as long as enough people agree it has value and are willing to bid against each other to obtain it. 

 Glad the conversation is getting more lively. I own gold and silver too. I long for the day I can play in more ponds. For now I have my toe in the Bitcoin water. I think it might be a mistake not to. Like I mentioned though, wait for a nice pullback, blood in the streets is ideal... and play around a bit. Now isn’t the time perhaps but an internet video or two is free. The market has already proved 19k, it can get there again (and I speculate fairly easily, pretty small market cap). I think you trade it for now and play around with small cash you don’t care about long term.

Post: Bitcoin is 10k again what are you going to do now?

Jonathan R.Posted
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Will it perform like digital gold? That is the question. Someone mentioned in a previous post- what will happen to it when the economy pulls back? Will people be rushing into Bitcoin, or will they be selling their Bitcoin to have some cash? Or both. Physical gold is hard to beat when it comes to the level of security people feel when they own it during a crisis, at least for now.

For the record, I have a Coinbase account and have been in and out of crypto over the last couple years. Now is probably not the time to fomo (fear of missing out) into Bitcoin, wait for a pullback. There have been many pullbacks, there will be many more. Buying at year long highs right now is dumb. I like @Dave DeMarco approach of staggering in every few weeks, but right now the space seems more like trading than long term investing, at least with any meaningful amount of money. Right now if you have money in I’d ride it, when the next disaster is announced I’d take money off the table, when it stabilizes near what you think is a bottom get back in, if another disaster is announced sell and take a small loss, rinse and repeat. You have to keep your eye on the total market cap and compare that to news that is being announced in real time, it can be exhausting. It’s a very small asset class right now for any feeling of safety. It may get big or stay small for a long time... I for one can’t wait to see how the next financial crisis (which I think is coming fairly soon) impacts the Bitcoin/crypto market.

@Jay Hinrichs yes, you are supposed to pay taxes on gains, though it’s like the wild Wild West. How hard is it to determine where you are at when you sell one crypto and move into another, then sell that one and move into another and another. Coinbase (the major US crypto exchange) did send some kind of notice to me but I don’t think it was very specific. And I don’t know whether I’m up or down to be able to report properly... lol.

PS it does appear there is a trend that many are turning into what is called a Bitcoin maximalist, meaning Bitcoin is the big dog crypto and all or most of your investment in the space should be in Bitcoin. Though I do also like the platform crypto’s like Etherium, Stellar Lumens, etc. They allow other crypto currencies to build and launch on their platform (like Facebook in that businesses build their businesses on Facebook). You want to learn what you can about what you are buying, just like you would any other investment.

Originally posted by @Maksim Easley:

Hello BP. I am wanting to get into real estate investing, more specifically larger multi family. I have book knowledge and from BP Podcasts but I don’t have any experience yet though and was wondering tips on how I should go about it. Should I start small with single families, small multis, or go straight ahead into 20+ unit multi families? In other words, will owning and operating smaller family homes translate into the larger multi families or is it a completely different game? I don’t want to waste much time in the smaller scale family homes/rentals if the skills don’t necessarily transfer & I’d have to essentially start over from scratch. Just really curious about other people’s thoughts and personal experiences. Thank you in advance!

 Besides your comfort level and financial statement/ability to go big right out of the gate, I think it also depends on what you can find in the market. At the McCurdy auction in town before this most recent one they had three 12 unit complexes next to Newman University near Kellogg (three quadplexes per complex) and all three went for $450,000 plus a buyer’s premium. The tax appraisal was 1/3 of that. Unreal. That is $37,500 a unit before the buyer’s premium. You can find duplexes and single family homes on a per unit cost for that or less than that depending on area. Why go big when going small pays better? Perhaps large multi family will get less overheated here soon, but right now there is next to no inventory and it’s overpriced.

Post: New to BiggerPockets in Kansas

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Originally posted by @Engelo Rumora:
Originally posted by @Jonathan R.:

@Derek Ackerman welcome to BP. It's not a good time to buy anything right now. It's hard to figure out what to do with money right now. Stocks are ridiculous, bonds are a hot potato that I don't want to own with little upside benefit. The blog from the real estate dingo that came out on the 4th of this month says it's not a bad time to sell some real estate and move some cash to a money market and wait for the recession to hit, but I don't even like that. I hate the dollar (can't put it to work fast enough); too much quantitative easing (money printing), rate cutting and deficit spending to even sit comfortably in a money market account for a potentially small return while waiting. I certainly like gold and silver, but I don't like to sell it and it needs to do some decent moving to cover the few bucks paid above spot to own the physical. I guess that's why I'm just continuing to buy real estate, perhaps the cleanest shirt in the dirty laundry (I figure if I hold long term it will come back around-or my kids can have it when Dad kicks the bucket). Best of luck.

Hoard the cash mate.

The Greenback is killing the other currencies.

The Euro and AUD suck compared to the USD.

Thanks for the mention by the way :)

 Engelo,

You might consider pointing your turnkey company in the Wichita direction. We are one of the 7 most recession-proof cities in America. Shameless plug. :)

https://livability.com/topics/careers-opportunities/the-7-most-recession-proof-cities-in-the-us

Post: New to BiggerPockets in Kansas

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@Derek Ackerman welcome to BP. It's not a good time to buy anything right now. It's hard to figure out what to do with money right now. Stocks are ridiculous, bonds are a hot potato that I don't want to own with little upside benefit. The blog from the real estate dingo that came out on the 4th of this month says it's not a bad time to sell some real estate and move some cash to a money market and wait for the recession to hit, but I don't even like that. I hate the dollar (can't put it to work fast enough); too much quantitative easing (money printing), rate cutting and deficit spending to even sit comfortably in a money market account for a potentially small return while waiting. I certainly like gold and silver, but I don't like to sell it and it needs to do some decent moving to cover the few bucks paid above spot to own the physical. I guess that's why I'm just continuing to buy real estate, perhaps the cleanest shirt in the dirty laundry (I figure if I hold long term it will come back around-or my kids can have it when Dad kicks the bucket). Best of luck.

Post: Retired in my early 30s! 🏝

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Originally posted by @Ivan Loza:

@Jonathan R. Ha easily the most solid advice I’ve received.

Thanks, will do

 I’d probably check out the Fort Worth or Oklahoma City market, some place within a couple hours and buy single family homes for 40k if I were you, cash deals, no leverage till you’ve done many of them and are more comfortable. Utilize the 401k, perhaps unsecured loans from a credit union to help you get going.

And yes, find a smoking hot female real estate investor. It’s all about networking. :)

Post: Retired in my early 30s! 🏝

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Originally posted by @Ivan Loza:

Help steer me in the right direction please.

I am a 25 year old school teacher who can currently save around 40k a year. Mostly from my salary, but I also own two SFH which I rent for $1300/month each with a mortgages of around $800/month, including taxes and insurance.

My goal is to retire by the age of 35 and focus my energy on either owning an apartment complex or commercial real estate. What road do you think would help me arrive to my destination?

1) Continue to buy and hold every time I save enough for a mortgage until I reach the 10 mortgage limit?

2) Go up to 4 mortgages then focus on paying the 4 properties off one at a time?

3) Take 1 mortgage out per year and invest the rest in index funds?

4) -Create an alternative road-

*Any year now I could fall in love, get married and have kids. This might substantially increase or decrease my savings potential.

 I’d check out a dating website for a woman that owns an apartment complex, and then fall in love. :) 

Just keep grinding. It will take time. Don’t over leverage.

Post: Wichita Kansas Investors

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@Jimmy Dang Lawrence Dumont Stadium is getting completely rebuilt. It is supposed to change the walking flow of downtown to support the local bars and restaurants better. Hadn’t heard about the final four but the downtown area did great recently with the round of 32 when KU was in town (large outdoor themed bars/gaming environments). The  new companies we are getting are smaller in size, no big announcements recently that I’ve heard of. Several of the companies we have currently are solidifying their positions here, Cargill built a brand new building downtown and Fidelity Bank has a large building operation underway right now. WSU is making large investments to try to make us more marketable to tech companies.