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All Forum Posts by: Kim Frantum

Kim Frantum has started 8 posts and replied 29 times.

Post: Property Lien question

Kim FrantumPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Waterford, MI
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 4

Thanks for the reply, Tom. Apparently, the second loan was a balloon due in 2022. They are hoping the quiet title is the way to go. They tried doing a refi last year and the lender would not do anything until the lien was off the title. They did not offer to pay with a refi as an option.

I believe they bought the house on the high side in 2005. Young couple with little knowledge of the process, just wanted to get in the house. Fortunately, they were able to keep the house when everything went crazy in 2008, but now it's coming back to haunt them.

Post: Property Lien question

Kim FrantumPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Waterford, MI
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 4

Has anyone ever experienced a lien on a property, an unpaid second loan that has passed the statute of limitations, a "Zombie Loan"? In this particular situation, the homeowner obtained an 80/20 loan in 2005, stopped payment on the second loan in 2009 just after modifying the first loan in 2008. Recently the homeowner has received correspondence from a collector about the debt, but the letter specifically says that due to the statute of limitations they can't legally enforce a lawsuit. However, there is still a lien on the property (through a mortgage company that no longer exists - WMC Mortgage) so they can't refi their existing loan.  Any suggestions? 

Post: Personal Loans or LLC

Kim FrantumPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Waterford, MI
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 4
Quote from @Darnell Lockett:
Quote from @Anna Beckerleg:

Most LLC's are not eligible for traditional residential mortgages. You could go with a commercial mortgage instead if you want to purchase with your LLC but that may not be the terms you want. You could always do a quit claim after you purchase to transfer ownership to your LLC but you'll want to confirm with your lender that is OK and won't contradict the wording in your mortgage agreement.

Hi @Anna Beckerleg. If Kim uses a DSCR loan she's able to close in a newly formed LLC right away. We do them all the time for our investor clients. No personal income needed and no personal debt take into account. They are great for 1-4 unit residential properties.

 This is extremely helpful! I will reach out when I'm ready so we can talk about options. Much appreciated!

Post: Personal Loans or LLC

Kim FrantumPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Waterford, MI
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 4
Quote from @Jim Wellington:

Hi Kim. I own a DSCR lending company, Level Up Capital. There are advantages to doing the loan to your LLC. One is the loan goes to the LLC and you're the guarantor. This does help provide barriers and negative impacts to your personal DTI ratios. The underwriting process is also more streamlined. We don't require tax returns, pay stubs, or w2s/1099s. That said the rates are generally a bit higher. You'll get a better rate and terms in your personal name. Happy to schedule a call to further discuss. Thanks!


 Good to know! I'll definitely reach out when the time comes. Thank you!

Post: Personal Loans or LLC

Kim FrantumPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Waterford, MI
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 4
Quote from @Anna Beckerleg:

Most LLC's are not eligible for traditional residential mortgages. You could go with a commercial mortgage instead if you want to purchase with your LLC but that may not be the terms you want. You could always do a quit claim after you purchase to transfer ownership to your LLC but you'll want to confirm with your lender that is OK and won't contradict the wording in your mortgage agreement.


Thank you for the advice and guidance! This was exactly my thought, eventually deeding the properties to my LLC. Is it usual practice for a lender to agree to these terms?

Post: Personal Loans or LLC

Kim FrantumPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Waterford, MI
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 4
Quote from @Eliott Elias:

Your LLC will never be able to obtain financing until it is open for 2 years or you are using DSCR & hard money.


 Good to know. Thank you!

Post: Personal Loans or LLC

Kim FrantumPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Waterford, MI
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 4
Quote from @Mark Severino:

It's your first property, I say go ahead and buy it in your name. 

Not that an LLC is the most complex thing in the world to create, but to PROPERLY maintain that LLC add a bit more intricacy to an already foreign process.


 I appreciate your insight. Thank you!

Post: Personal Loans or LLC

Kim FrantumPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Waterford, MI
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 4
Quote from @Erik Estrada:

Hey Kim, 

Are you planning on purchasing your primary residence under an LLC or an investment property?

Some DSCR lenders are okay with new LLCs as long as you own a primary residence.


 HI Erik,

I appreciate your response! I'm planning on purchasing an investment property. I do currently own a primary residence. 

My goal is to purchase multiple properties in the next couple of years and eventually look into multi-family properties. I'm thinking of purchasing the first couple of properties in my name and eventually deed them to my LLC. Once I have a decent portfolio I can start to obtain financing directly through the LLC.

Post: Personal Loans or LLC

Kim FrantumPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Waterford, MI
  • Posts 30
  • Votes 4

I'm a new investor preparing to purchase my first investment property soon. Eventually, I would like to place my properties into an LLC, but for now I feel like I need to purchase my first property the conventional way; get a loan through the bank. From what I've read, new LLC's are probably not going to obtain financing. Is this the way to go? Any advice or feedback is appreciated.