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All Forum Posts by: Lee S.

Lee S. has started 38 posts and replied 583 times.

Post: Are My Expectations Realistic? (Central Valley California)

Lee S.Posted
  • Northern, CA
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Originally posted by @James Syed:
Originally posted by @Roderick Brenes:

Thank you for the insight @Franklin S. !

If I'm looking just to break even on a place that rents for 1200, what would be my target purchase price (20% down)?

 My quickest (back of the envelope) response will be purchase price $60,000 minus repair cost, if rental income is $1200 a month. 

Hope it helps.

As we have been discussing, i think numbers like that would be really difficult to find in California.  That's basically the 2% rule from my understanding, in the area we are talking about it seems the going rare is about .6% meaning you're taking a good loss on a monthly basis. 

Post: Are My Expectations Realistic? (Central Valley California)

Lee S.Posted
  • Northern, CA
  • Posts 674
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Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

@Lee S.   the out of state risks can  be mitigated by looking at areas that are closest to you first.. IE vegas Phx... Idaho,, Wa Or... these areas are most like your area only with better rent to price ratios. 

If you go east of the rockies your getting into the mid west upper mid west rental market which accounts for probably 50 to 70% of all SFR rentals in the country.. So no shortage of properties.. this is why they never really go up in value and the prices are based on cash flow values only.... with a local looking at 2% and out of state 1% ( bp rules of thumb)...

maybe in Rentals are not the play maybe there is some other form of investing that would be better.... IE hooking up with a good partner to do flips, or crowdfunding for short term plays,, or a very good HML in your immediate area that could make you 10 to 12% cash on cash... There is more to RE investing life than buying rentals...

Thanks Jay, I requested your Ebook in the past couple of days, just getting started on it.  I do realize there is more to RE investing than just rentals and I'm open to most things.  Rentals is more my idea of the slow long term cash flow/wealth tool I would like to use since I don't "need" income at the moment but I'll gladly take it.  I'll look in the areas you mentioned, I'm definitely more comfortable west of the Rockies, almost bought an investment condo in Vegas about 13 years ago.

Post: Are My Expectations Realistic? (Central Valley California)

Lee S.Posted
  • Northern, CA
  • Posts 674
  • Votes 444

seems I'm running into similar numbers where I'm at in the foothills just east of the Central Valley.  Looking to buy first rental, I have funds and income to cover no problem but seems numbers don't work.  My house is worth ~500k and maybe I could get $2500 rent.  Any whole sellers in this area?

Seems a large number of people are against looking out of state for cash flow, but in would rather my first few houses cash flow before risking a pure appreciation play in California.