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All Forum Posts by: Lu Kang

Lu Kang has started 0 posts and replied 27 times.

Quote from @Stuart Udis:

@Robert Ellis There are certainly benefits to new construction (if built by reputable builder). No deferred maintenance, cap ex greatly reduced, many municipalities offer tax abatements or other incentives etc. However, I am not opposed by any means to buying existing structures but location matters. With current construction debt pricing and construction costs I am finding some rehabs are penciling better. Only the high end new construction $400/sf+ for sale or higher end rentals are really penciling well in my market, Philadelphia at this time if ground up dev is pursued.

  In both heavy rehabs and light or cosmetic rehabs you can do quite well acquiring real estate significantly below replacement costs. You can do well even if the buildings have systems that possess some useful life and don't require phsyical rehabilitation but I will say it again, the key is location and market  fundamenals. If you purchase in better neighborhoods, its easier to absorb the costs of making repairs the correct way. You can hire the licensed and insured contractors. you can make true cap ex investments such as new roofs, replace whole systems etc. It's very difficult to do so in the lower priced properties and this is why you often see duct tape repairs, or investors hiring the lowest cost labor believing they are now owners  of "gut rehabs" with new systems only to find out installs were done incorrectly, shortcuts were taken and the repairs never stop from there. 

This is why the cash flow may appear stronger on a spread sheet, but the cap ex and operational expenses eventually catch up unless the investor is extremely hands on. In that price point you are really operating a business more than you are a real estate investor. The exception are those individuals who understand and identify  the market fundamentals that suggest significant appreciation but most who buy in these lower price points are chasing cash flow, have no sense of market fundamentals and buy property in stagnant market with no real investment thesis.


 I was certainly guilty of this for a few properties. Focused on the allure of cash flow, without looking for good bones of a property. Duct Tape repairs may make you money upfront, but that luck runs out .

Cosmetically using cheaper materials based on the class of property is one thing, but the bigger repairs ie. roofing , plumbing, electric, hvac, All the bigger updates as Stuart mentioned, cost the same. I feel from 2012 to 2020, you could get away with shortcuts, since loans were around 4% and housing prices allowed closer to meeting the 1% rule. 


Now that we have the data, it's important to have the systems in place and focus more on the value add. 

Post: High-Income, Time-Strapped W2 Earner—First House Hack Strategy?

Lu KangPosted
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  • Lafayette Hill, PA
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Hi @Benjamin Boyle congrats on the journey. 

One thing is consider since you have limited time, would your wife be open to "professional real estate designation" for tax purposes.

As a new investor you will most likely incur losses (Active / passive) based on your first purchase, especially today's high cost environment. Option 2 seems to be the best situation. 

Keep in mind usually you can writeoff 25K real estate losses (Usually due to first year fees, mortgage interest / and depreciation). But if your W2 is too high, there is also a phase out, meaning you won't qualify and still have to pay back depreciation at sale unless you 1031. 

It's also one of those deals where you don't know your threshold of being a landlord, until you become a landlord. The next step really is just get a calculator and determine how much it would cost to buy a duplex / triplex and how much you the tenants pay down vs your present situation. 

Depending on that it might make sense to buy or just keep the status quo and keep making 4% on your cash. 

Post: Rise48 Preferred Equity Fund / Capital Call?

Lu KangPosted
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Thanks for sharing, saw some of the webinar from the wallstreetoasis link.

Curious how they communciated this to the original investors, cause them seemed to infur on the webinar that the 18% is such a great deal and better then what we would have offered the original investors. With most of the investors buying in 2021/ 2022, doesn't seem like a consistent message. 

Post: REI Nation Property #4 - 7320 Marrs, TX - Thanks REI Nation!

Lu KangPosted
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Quote from @Christopher Stevens:
Quote from @Lu Kang:

Hi Christopher,

Now that you are approaching one year with your Dallas property, have you gotten updates on new insurance / property tax rates.


I had a similar experience with my place down in Ark. The carrying costs are low, but tenant was making partial payments by month 2. That's the other challenge that i've learned, with only one month as SD, if the tenant leaves even in a relatively new build the fees add up. 

My Dallas property has been one of my best investments, but it's only been about 9 months. Rent is always on time, and things have been going well. It only has positive cash flow due to concessions by the seller that will last about 2 years.

Property values have seemed to drop in that area, so I'm doing something different by requesting a reassessment of my property taxes. If all goes well, my monthly payments could drop about $60 from a tax reassessment in about six months. So, there's more than one way to create more cash flow than refinancing:-). 

Regarding my AR properties, I, too, have had some significant challenges over the past 12 months with Arkansas renters. I have three properties in AR now, and as of about four months ago, two of them were vacant despite having two-year contracts on the properties. One was evicted after about five months and three months of working with the tenant on rent delays, and the other walked away after about three months in the property and got behind for two months. Then, both needed about $5,000-$10,000 each in repairs and cleanup.

Even with low rents in those areas, renters struggle to pay $995/month on one property and $1,095/month on another. These are lovely single-family homes. It's only been a few months, so hopefully, they will get better at paying rent on time, but they make partial or late payments nearly every month. This seems strange since PPMG (my property management company) is vetting these renters. PPMG claims "...an average length of stay of 5.3 years...", it would take a long time for all my tenants to stay in my homes to get to a 5.3-year average. Of course, it's only an average, so it seems I had some bad luck so far.

My subsequent purchases will be in better areas and will be newer homes. I'm still learning, but I'm glad I started investing in more real estate. In another 5-10 years, I'm confident I'll be happy purchasing more real estate. 

 Hi Christopher,

Thanks for the update. Best of luck with the appeals, while PPMG handles all the day to day, we can do we can to limit expenses on our end. It's also nice that they have their own recommended insurer, those rates are much lower then what I would pay up in the northeast. 

I agree with your approach in aiming for better locations, seems that texas (dallas /FT worth) fits the bill. Until the rates come down to refinance, the key for us is to limit the amount of turnover at the properties. 5K to 10K in rehab basically eats away at several years of cashflow. If anything, when we plug in the details per the calculator we def have to put in higher then the estimiated 3% maintenance costs. 

I also did notice the REI had some newer builds in Ward, AR but those seemed be sold quickly. If recall the prices and rent out were a bit challenging too. Hopefully with the upcoming rental market you will get better vetted tenants in AR.

Post: REI Nation Property #4 - 7320 Marrs, TX - Thanks REI Nation!

Lu KangPosted
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  • Lafayette Hill, PA
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Hi Christopher,

Now that you are approaching one year with your Dallas property, have you gotten updates on new insurance / property tax rates.


I had a similar experience with my place down in Ark. The carrying costs are low, but tenant was making partial payments by month 2. That's the other challenge that i've learned, with only one month as SD, if the tenant leaves even in a relatively new build the fees add up. 

Post: 5 Years with REI Nation: Convenience Over Cash Flow

Lu KangPosted
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@Jay Hinrichs

100%. 

These days all investors need to have more realistic expectations. Gone are the days prior to 2019 where I as a complete newbie could buy and get instant equity, use financing at sub 5% and still cash flow while maintaining a reserve balance. If anything it just means that initial newbie tax / buffer is going away. 

Post: 5 Years with REI Nation: Convenience Over Cash Flow

Lu KangPosted
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@David B. Glad you have had success and continue to do well with your portfolio

@Chris Lin  Sorry to hear about your place, hoping you get resolution to your issues.

I bought two places with REI in 2024, one in Huntsville and one in Little Rock. The process of buying, getting a loan and settling to closing was extremely smooth. They also have blanket insurance coverage which is much lower then policies in Philadelphia. Part of the allure was the holding fees (insurance / property were several thousand less then up north)

After one year, my Huntsville tenant had to move out early for a job relocation. They ended their lease early. REI has processes in place so portion of the Security Deposit/ missing rent had to be covered by tenant. Even with that, I had vacancy for 3 months, turnover expenses (rekeying, deep cleaning, etc), paying the one month lease to find a new tenant and also the new tenants are in at a lower rental rate then the prior tenants. (1500 to 1350)

My Little Rock tenant has been paying but already slightly behind. I'll have to reach out to my advisor to get an further update. Was told initially it was a banking issue, but we will see what the latest is . I have been getting updates / communcation on my properties, but also after one year I'm on my third service advisor due to internal org changes. 

My conclusion is that take the provided ROI calculations from REI as purely estimates. Having a problem tenant and dealing with eviction could happen in any market. Know the reason why you are investing. I knew for me this wasn't going to have instant cashflow especially when buying a turnkey and in 2024. Longterm I believe this will work out, but also can't provide a full picture after only holding for one year.

Post: Decided to focus on investing in Philadelphia

Lu KangPosted
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Quote from @Sudhir N.:

Hi Stuart - My investments (primarily multifamily dwellings) are just outside of Temple's student housing zone, near Girard. I don't get the student population at all. My tenants are professionals for the most part. Yet, I have seen absolutely no rent or property appreciation. In fact my average rent/unit is exactly what it was 5 years ago. Philly has seen no meaningful population growth in the last decade or so. In fact the population has only declined in the last few years. It's not a Miami or Austin or what Seattle once was by any stretch of imagination. There is a never ending supply of new construction units as well. Often it takes one desperate investor/ owner to drop the rent by a few hundred $ to get the ripple effect going. Property assessments are out of whack. Tradesmen charge as if it is the most expensive city in the world. My investment goals are modest (say, 9-10% IRR over a 7 yr period) and I am convinced Philly will not generate that. I am very data driven and I simply don't see Philly as an attractive destination unless you are -- local, hands on, DIY, don't have prop mgmt expenses, don't pay leasing commissions, get preferred rates from lenders, know a guy who does handyman work, etc. There could be a very few pockets like you describe, but that's like less than 10% of the city. I have 7 years of data from multiple properties and pore over a ton of new listings literally every day and I don't see a pathway to rental investing success in Philly.


 I actually looked at quite a few of these around temple. Also curious based on the rent rolls, but as you stated, when new the rents were high but as your multi gets older the rents drop due to more competition. Those really made more sense for someone who could be more local and then find own tenants, cause college students / young professionals seem to turnover more quickly. 

If you are remote, tenant turnover is a killer. When I was starting in 2010's, Philly had the advantage vs the suburbs due to the lower property tax vs the suburb tax. But now the taxes are also higher as without good schools, you don't get the super appreciation vs having a suburban house. 

Post: Decided to focus on investing in Philadelphia

Lu KangPosted
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Insurance companies have any begun to charge more for Philly row homes, and the property assessment continues to increase year after year. 


It really depends if you can get a great deal on the purchase price, and yes adding value seems to be the smartest play. 


Back in the late 2010's, Philly had potentially due to the low tax vs the comparable rent. But now it seems taxes have increased, additional government fees, ie lead testing for any property built prior to 2017, and also increases in sewer / water rates. Philly also has 2% transfer tax, vs 1% across the other parts of PA

Other factors like the current investor loans charging at 8%. Not to say it can't be done, but it will be a uphill battle. 

Quote from @Melanie P.:

@Lu Kang Thanks for sharing your opinion, which you go on to acknowledge is based on zero experience. Guess that sales rep caught you by the tail. :eyeroll: Please come back and let us know how your gambling with an investment tout turns out.


Thanks for the vote of confidence in my investments :) . 

Hoping to keep things cordial and keep away from the personal attacks but I estimated wrong.